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07-26-2008, 09:49 PM
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| Gold Member | thank you ziquor. |
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07-26-2008, 10:12 PM
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| Gold Member  | That's also what I'm wondering. I was going to use A-dex as my AI to start at the end of the SERM (Torem). Do you need a basic OTC or a real AI? As far as the AI theory goes. I was going to follow something like you posted here. It seems to make sense. Start coming back without the AI and control everything near the end with it. Quote:
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07-26-2008, 10:43 PM
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07-27-2008, 11:10 AM
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| Gold Member | I would say ldex is stronger than 6-oxo, IMO. 300mg of ldex and 300mg of trione are two totally different animals........ i must admit, I like both ideals of pct. I like bass' and i like PA's...... flip a coin? lol |
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07-27-2008, 11:23 AM
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I'm running the fcuk out of M-drol right now and I can tell you for sure I WILL NOT be fcuking with an AI in my pct just FYI...Any other compound this might be different but there are obviously more/different issues involved with superdrol in contrast to compounds like epi, phera, halo ect, ect.... | |
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07-27-2008, 11:35 AM
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first off..........6oxo=ldex is just plain untrue. DUDE 6oxo is a very weak AI in comparison. As far as an AI goes in PCT superdrol........ ???up in there air. PA knows some shite, but was he recommending 6-oxo or ldex........there is a difference. Here is an excerpt taken from another site. take it for what its worth. Written by SuperChicken over at Anabolic-Alchemy.com "theres been a lot of talk on other boards about this lately, and a lot of bad information thrown out as well. i wanted to share the good info. somone keeps posting how letrozole is the strongest and doesnt negatively affect cholesterol. this is not true. letrozole is NOT the strongest and it DOES negative affect cholesterol/lipid profile in a bad way. aromasin(exemestane) is the best. this is why both arimidex/ldex/anastrozole and femara/letrozole hurt your cholesterol. the way these 2 anti e's work is they inhibit the aromatase enzyme. by inhibiting the enzyme which converts testosterone to estrogen, you reduce or even come close to eliminating estrogen production. we need some estrogen to be healthy. the major drawback to this is without estrogen, your lipid profile gets ****ed. exemestane works differently. it does not stop the body from producing estrogen. rather, it makes it so the estrogen is unable to bind to receptors by deactivating the binding enzyme. if the estrogen cannot bind, you simply will not get bloated or get gyno. the estrogen is crippled due to exemestane. however, since the estrogen is still floating around, it will not negatively affect your lipid/cholesterol profile. anastrozole doesnt cause a rebound effect, and neither does exemestane, but letrozole does. this means after you stop the letrozole, your estrogen rebounds and goes pretty high for a while, eventually it normalizes. you can avoid this by tapering your letro dose down before stopping it, but that is a pain in the ass. higher than normal can mess many things up post cycle when you stop. since the hpta has a feedback loop is primarily controlled by estrogen, high estrogen will tell your hpta to produce less testosterone, because it thinks the high estrogen is caused by too much testosterone. this is fact. now post cycle, dont we want to raise our test levels, not lower them? of course! so rebounds are bad. if you use letro taper the dose off to zero over a couple weeks. fyi- nolvadex(tamoxifen) is a SERM(Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator). this means on certain tissue it can act antagonisticaly or agonistically. in the case of lipid profiles, it acts agonistically. so, running tamoxifen with your anti e's will IMPROVE your cholesterol profile even if not on cycle or using any gear or other anti e's. its just plain good for cholesterol. one thing to keep in mind though when runing tamoxifen with letro. letro reduces blood levels of tamoxifen by over 50%. a study showed 2.5mg letro ed made nolva levels drop to 40% of what they were before adding letro. this does not mean you cant use tamoxifen with letro, it just means you need to use more, about double. 20mg of nolva will act like 8mg if running letro. so make sure you are aware of this because you will need to buy more nolva to compensate. this does not happen when mixing tamoxifen with anastrozole or exemestane, it only hppens with letro. also, many people and myself experince a reduction of libido on letro. this doesnt happen w/ ldex or exmestane as far as i know, and in my own experience, and ive run all 3 quite a bit. the best combo IS exemestane and tamoxifen together. your cholesterol will be as good as can be considering your on a cycle of steroids. the dose of aromasin will vary depending on the users needs and how much aromatizing gear is being taken. usually 10-25mg ed works well. run 10mg ed nolva to improve your cholesterol. second best combo i feel is anastrozole(ldex) and tamoxifen. ldex dose ranges from usually .15mg ed to 1mg ed. run 10mg nolva ed to improve cholesterol. thierd best is letro and nolvadex. letro doses usually range from 1-2.5mg ed. run 20mg ed nolva to improve cholesterol w/ letro. you do not need to run nolva with any of these 3, i do recomend it though as it will improve cholesterol compared to using the anti e's alone without nolva. so in order of strength, on a dose per dose basis(not mg per mg) aromasin is def the strognest, a close next is letro, and then ldex. ive been running aromasin now for about 4 months, i wont switch back to ldex or letro. it works much better and its much healthier for cholesterol profiles. i think we all need to stop only worrying about side effects that we can see visually. cholesterol KILLS many people around the world everyday(well not directly kills but leads to it). steroids are hrting us badly in this sense. steroids do mess our cholesterol up pretty badly, and we will pay for it later in life. now not many of us are going to stop using gear because of that, but we should at least take the proper other drugs to help minimize. aromasin is only a little bit more expensive than ldex or letro, and its actually about the same price as many places sell ldex or letro for. but its more powerful and healthier. people spend money all the time on steroids which dont have as many side effects as some of the harsher, cheaper steroids. a few extra bucks for the proper anti e's is def money well spent." Again taken- " Quote: Originally posted by OceanDude OK - so anyone know how 6-oxo stacks up against aromasin and the others? It doesn't" I would like to read something from Ergo or PA stating their product versus a research chem. Even the weakest of them all, Ldex. | |
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07-27-2008, 11:40 AM
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| Gold Member | Damn't, I am not shutting up and listening...........I'm out. For wiser to prevail. still awaiting the perfect pct for SD. |
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07-27-2008, 11:47 AM
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Do whatever you want but I suggest you curb your smart mouth if you expect to people to help you make a decision. Just thrown out what a pro with 20+ years of experiance had to say on the matter that is all....so don't try to call me out on it... | |
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07-27-2008, 01:22 PM
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First off. I am not your dude, lets make that clear. Secondly, I am not a dipshyt. I havent ran gynodrol yet. My sole reason. Because all these experts cant seem to agree. Not sure i plan to. Ever. Running gear is different than gynodrol. okay. Also, 6oxo doesnt equate to Ldex. I am just offering other's advice and opinions. Same as you. good day sir. | |
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07-27-2008, 01:26 PM
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07-27-2008, 01:30 PM
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this superdrol pct has cost me hours of research and countless arguments. So many different opinions on how to do it properly. So many successfull and unsuccessful pcts. This sob is totally person dependant, its sickening. I have two close personal accounts of pcts that were successful. both with an AI(ldex was tapered)...... 1 with clomid, 1 with test booster. I dont get it................ roll the dice i guess. | |
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07-27-2008, 01:59 PM
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 Well the way I chose to do it was to run it at a lower end dose 10,20mgs and only stay on the posiondrol for a quick two week burst. I guess we'll know in a few months it my idea payed off or not. Check out my log if you want. It's "BlackSheep's NO BS M-Drol quickie" in the steroid section | |
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07-27-2008, 02:07 PM
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