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    Want to make sure my PCT in OK


    Saturday I begin my PCT.The cycle I did was
    IForce's Bold at 800mgs for 56 days
    Mdrol for the last 21 days
    SAMe for the last 21 days

    This is my PCT plan
    Nolva-Week 1-40,40,40 20,20,20,20
    Week 2-20mgs Week 3 & 4-10mgs
    SAMe and NAC
    Primal Male
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    Retain2-Start on Day 15
    Acetyl L-Carnitine-4.5grams a day
    a.3 grams from 2 servings of Clout
    b.1.5 grams from NOW Foods Acetyl L-Carnitine
    My everyday vitamins and oils

    I know this might be overkill for my PCT but my goals are to keep all my gains.This is the third cycle I have done.The last was in Sept '07.It was PheraVol and Propadrol.I would like opinions for my PCT.

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    Bump.Can I get a little help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koi1214 View Post
    Saturday I begin my PCT.The cycle I did was
    IForce's Bold at 800mgs for 56 days
    Mdrol for the last 21 days
    SAMe for the last 21 days

    This is my PCT plan
    Nolva-Week 1-40,40,40 20,20,20,20
    Week 2-20mgs Week 3 & 4-10mgs
    SAMe and NAC
    Primal Male
    Stoked
    Retain2-Start on Day 15
    Acetyl L-Carnitine-4.5grams a day
    a.3 grams from 2 servings of Clout
    b.1.5 grams from NOW Foods Acetyl L-Carnitine
    My everyday vitamins and oils

    I know this might be overkill for my PCT but my goals are to keep all my gains.This is the third cycle I have done.The last was in Sept '07.It was PheraVol and Propadrol.I would like opinions for my PCT.
    Overkill? No not really. if you had just ran Bold then it would have been a bit overkill. I mean half the stuff you have in pct is stuff people supplement with out of pct as well. nolvadex dosage looks good. just hopefully you won't have gyno rebound a month or two off. what were your gains like on this cycle anyway?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behemoth1 View Post
    Overkill? No not really. if you had just ran Bold then it would have been a bit overkill. I mean half the stuff you have in pct is stuff people supplement with out of pct as well. nolvadex dosage looks good. just hopefully you won't have gyno rebound a month or two off. what were your gains like on this cycle anyway?
    My gains are amazing.I am up 19lbs and the strength gains are incredible.Squats,D/L,Bench,BO Rows and Powercleans
    are all up 20-30lbs plus more reps.
    I also added IGF-2 to help with any prolactin issues.The only real side I experienced was lethargy and some back pumps.I used taurine and ate a lot of bananas(potassium) for the backpumps.
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    Why are you starting your cort blocker (retain2) the 15th day? Is this standard for PCT?
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    To the OP: You should save your Retain2 for PCT. It'll help block cortisol and protect your hard-earned muscle... hard-earned for the most part.

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    Why are you starting your cort blocker (retain2) the 15th day? Is this standard for PCT?
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    Well my question was why is he starting it on the 15th day of PCT? I've got Retain2 on hand for a planned PCT, but I was planning on running it right after the cycle. Wondering if midway PCT is standard?
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    He should run it straight through PCT was what I meant to say.

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    Well my question was why is he starting it on the 15th day of PCT? I've got Retain2 on hand for a planned PCT, but I was planning on running it right after the cycle. Wondering if midway PCT is standard?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condition1 View Post
    Well my question was why is he starting it on the 15th day of PCT? I've got Retain2 on hand for a planned PCT, but I was planning on running it right after the cycle. Wondering if midway PCT is standard?
    Not the first time ive seen this method debated. Nothing wrong with starting your retain at the beginning of PCt, im sure this has been done a million times but recently i have seen people comment on starting it two weeks in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Behemoth1 View Post
    nolvadex dosage looks good. just hopefully you won't have gyno rebound a month or two off.
    might i suggest running trione (6-oxo) inverse to the nolva to prevent this. example of 4 weeks of PCT ( starting the trione @ 200mgs. for the 1st week then 300, 400 and finally 500mgs. then ramping down from the 500 to 400 for a week then 300, ending @ 100. this should prevent any kind of rebound. by that time estro and test should be back to normal. just a suggestion that was giving to me by someone on this board and to me.....it makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condition1 View Post
    Well my question was why is he starting it on the 15th day of PCT? I've got Retain2 on hand for a planned PCT, but I was planning on running it right after the cycle. Wondering if midway PCT is standard?
    Cortisol buildup doesn't start untli a couple of weeks in due to the fact that your body has to figure out WTF is happening. Once you start producing test again and it starts to aromatize and levels rise cortisol will start to be produced. THis usually happens about two weeks into PCT. You could start earlier but most cort blockers aren't meant to run more than 30 days. Starting a couple weeks in gives you some extra time to control the cortisol and you stop taking it about the time the cotisol levels settle down...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Condition1 View Post
    Well my question was why is he starting it on the 15th day of PCT? I've got Retain2 on hand for a planned PCT, but I was planning on running it right after the cycle. Wondering if midway PCT is standard?
    i learned this by researching Dinoiii's PCT articles and through
    email conversations with him to start Retain2 on Day 15.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmangiarelli View Post
    Cortisol buildup doesn't start untli a couple of weeks in due to the fact that your body has to figure out WTF is happening. Once you start producing test again and it starts to aromatize and levels rise cortisol will start to be produced. THis usually happens about two weeks into PCT. You could start earlier but most cort blockers aren't meant to run more than 30 days. Starting a couple weeks in gives you some extra time to control the cortisol and you stop taking it about the time the cotisol levels settle down...
    Shouldn't I start 6oxo in week 4 through week 7 at 400,300,200,100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmangiarelli View Post
    Cortisol buildup doesn't start untli a couple of weeks in due to the fact that your body has to figure out WTF is happening. Once you start producing test again and it starts to aromatize and levels rise cortisol will start to be produced. THis usually happens about two weeks into PCT. You could start earlier but most cort blockers aren't meant to run more than 30 days. Starting a couple weeks in gives you some extra time to control the cortisol and you stop taking it about the time the cotisol levels settle down...
    hmm nice bit of info to read. i just started my lean xtreme today. Day 1 of PCT. Might hold back a week or two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by koi1214 View Post
    Shouldn't I start 6oxo in week 4 through week 7 at 400,300,200,100.
    Yeah you can run it three to four weeks depending on your situation. So three weeks would be 300/200/100
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmangiarelli View Post
    Cortisol buildup doesn't start untli a couple of weeks in due to the fact that your body has to figure out WTF is happening. Once you start producing test again and it starts to aromatize and levels rise cortisol will start to be produced. THis usually happens about two weeks into PCT. You could start earlier but most cort blockers aren't meant to run more than 30 days. Starting a couple weeks in gives you some extra time to control the cortisol and you stop taking it about the time the cotisol levels settle down...
    Interesting and good to know.
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    Thank you everyone for the help and REPS to everyone.
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    So, cortisol levels begin to rise approximately 2 weeks after finishing a cycle?

    Quote Originally Posted by dmangiarelli View Post
    Cortisol buildup doesn't start untli a couple of weeks in due to the fact that your body has to figure out WTF is happening. Once you start producing test again and it starts to aromatize and levels rise cortisol will start to be produced. THis usually happens about two weeks into PCT. You could start earlier but most cort blockers aren't meant to run more than 30 days. Starting a couple weeks in gives you some extra time to control the cortisol and you stop taking it about the time the cotisol levels settle down...
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    Thanks, bro. You're welcome.

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    Thank you everyone for the help and REPS to everyone.
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    IF anything half of us should be thanking you (and dman) for that bit of info on cort levels beginning to rise about 2 weeks into PCT
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    So, cortisol levels begin to rise approximately 2 weeks after finishing a cycle?
    Yes ...
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