PCT help! bad anxiety/paranoia

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  1. PCT help! bad anxiety/paranoia


    So i just finished running a 3 week SD cycle. Had some bad headaches the first week, but after that everything went perfect. Put on about 15lbs, all my lifts went up felt awsome, until the day before my last day, when i had a really bad panic attack. So i stopped my cycle, got on some toremifene at 100 mcg/day, paravol 2x day, and retain 2x day. I started taking DHEA too, but i had to stop it because it kept giving me anxiety attacks as well. So i just stuck with toremifene, paravol and retain. Sunday went good, monday went good, today it was hell. Really bad anxiety and paranoia. Feel like walls are closing in, constatnly feel like a gota get away, jittery, paranoied, anxiety attacks, crazy thoughts. Ussually after my cycles all i run is some Novedex for about 1 week and that's it. And i ussually keep most of my gains and i don't have sides, not like this anyways. But people on this board kept telling me that i don't run my PCT properly and i figured i was gonna do it good this time around. So... if anyone can help me out, please, i'll appreciate it, because i feel like i'm going insane. my plan of action if nothing else is to stop all my PCT, and just run of Novedex while. Honestly at this point, feeling like this i'd much rather lose half of my gains than feel like this for a few more days.


  2. Just take some deep breaths. I get some anxiety when running these compounds too. Once your hormone levels balance you should be alright. But there's nothing to be worried about, take it easy.
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  3. how long do your symptoms last for? more than a week?

  4. yeah about that long.

  5. ****.... well i guess i gota stick it out. i feel like i'm on a crystal meth come down. I'm cracked out, jittery as hell, paranoied, can't sleep ... hope it gets a little better soon. thanks bro
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  6. Hey brother I am in last few days of my Suprdrol clone cycle. About 2 days ago I started feeling mentally diffrent. Nothing physical just mentally feeling and focusing intensly on dumb stuff. Now i know folks will say this is nuts but I popped a novedex xt and within a hour I was back to my old self. Maybe my E was high. I will be running XT for next few days then I start PCT. Hope that helps

  7. Quote Originally Posted by poacher View Post
    Hey brother I am in last few days of my Suprdrol clone cycle. About 2 days ago I started feeling mentally diffrent. Nothing physical just mentally feeling and focusing intensly on dumb stuff. Now i know folks will say this is nuts but I popped a novedex xt and within a hour I was back to my old self. Maybe my E was high. I will be running XT for next few days then I start PCT. Hope that helps
    yeah this is not my first cycle, or my first PCT but somthing just went really weird this time around. Guess i just have to ride it out, but damn man, it's just fd up. Hope your PCT goes smooth bro. i just have to keep reminding myself how bad I want this. And i do want it bad. Anyways just got back from the gym worked out, did some cardio, hopefully i'll be able to pass out soon.

  8. ive had this happen when i was on m-drol, and like others have said it will go away. It may take a week to get everything back in order but just stick it out and you'll be alright.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by powerhouse21 View Post
    ive had this happen when i was on m-drol, and like others have said it will go away. It may take a week to get everything back in order but just stick it out and you'll be alright.
    m-drol is what i'm coming off of too... guess i've got no choice but to stick it out... due to going back to school i had to move back in with my mom, and it's hard explaining to my mom why am i acting so crazy. i was seriously considering going to the ER, a bunch of times, but then i keep remembering how stupid they are, that a lot of these things they know nothing of and all they're going to tell me is that i shoudln't have done it, so i've got no choice but to push through it. thanks for all your help guys. that's the one thing about this board, you can always count on people to help you out

  10. bullet, if you are that bad then dont 'tough' it out, if you have novedex xt and you liked it before then try it, poacher said it helped him so please try everything to lessen that instead of doing nothing.

    it's not good for your head and your heart to feel like that.

    goodluck and hope you feel better soon

  11. well i just switched from tore to nova... hope i do a little better

  12. you were going to go to er for pannic attacks???? that is bad dude.... maybe u should get off the juice all together. you might have a mental illness that never would have shown up untill u started taking these products...

  13. yeah i'm feeling a lot better today. and thanks for your concern buddy, but i'm allready off the juice, just trying to get back to normal now and that's that.

  14. yeah man sounded like u were having a bit of a hard time,glad to hear your feeling better champ.

  15. I had anxiety issues as a kid growing up in violent circumstances, and i got over it as a young adult. Then PH brought it back. Its not the cause ... but will bring out inner demons, IE roid rage which is a predisposition to anger before any hormone use.

  16. did someone say Taurine? no? why not? supports a calmer mood.........

  17. or any other herbals for mood regulation - St. John's or something like that?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by arizonanewbie View Post
    or any other herbals for mood regulation - St. John's or something like that?
    Don't try St John's or SAM-e unless you get diagnosed first, they can REALLY screw you up depending on what's wrong.(IF there's anything wrong.)
    The Truth is, there is no Truth.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by bullet View Post
    yeah this is not my first cycle, or my first PCT but somthing just went really weird this time around. Guess i just have to ride it out, but damn man, it's just fd up. Hope your PCT goes smooth bro. i just have to keep reminding myself how bad I want this. And i do want it bad. Anyways just got back from the gym worked out, did some cardio, hopefully i'll be able to pass out soon.
    I've seen this happen to a few others recently with SD.

  20. yeah feeling a lot better today... however my weight went down 4 lbs since yeastudray. WTF? so far i've lost 5 lbs out of the 14 gained. if this keeps up i should be feeling 100% myself by the end of next week, but hopefully my weight won't be back down to what it was when i started, cuz that would be horrible. but i'll even deal with that over that horible anxiety i experienced. i think It might have been the toremifene.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by LilPsychotic View Post
    I've seen this happen to a few others recently with SD.
    could it be the SD clone that people are using? i used M-drol and a few others have mentioned that M-drol has done this for them. Just wandering

  22. Quote Originally Posted by bullet View Post
    yeah feeling a lot better today... however my weight went down 4 lbs since yesterday. WTF? so far I've lost 5 lbs out of the 14 gained. if this keeps up i should be feeling 100% myself by the end of next week, but hopefully my weight won't be back down to what it was when i started, cuz that would be horrible. but I'll even deal with that over that horrible anxiety i experienced. i think It might have been the toremifene.
    have you changed your diet? or training? i learned the hard way to keep my cals and protein high through PCT, it wasn't until i did 2 cycles that i learned that one, i kept losing 6 to 10 lbs. after a cycle in PCT. reason for that? i get done with a cycle and look and feel a bit bloated because the ph/ps is (for the most part) out of my system, so i start to try to "cut" too early into PCT cause i don't want to be a fat-ass, but what really happens is i lose most of what i gained because i don't have enough patience to let my body adjust back to "normal" and then concentrate on cutting the fat. just my experience so far.....

  23. well i was feeling good actually until a few hours ago, actually i felt really good, so i took 2 novedex xt and couple hrs later i tried to go to sleep. couldn't fall asleep right away and now.... well the damn anxiety is back. i'm wide awake, jumping around like i had a 5 shot esspresso, yet i feel tired. this is definetly not my week. i just don;t get it. never had problems with novedex xt before, so i don't understand it. hopefully it won;t get really horrible and i'll still be able to get some sleep. nolva is the only one that i've tolerated during this PCT. i just don't get it. never had problems with novedex xt or toremifene.

  24. Very sorry to Hear. I really think my issues were e related. I have stayed on 1 XT and can't belive how good I feel vs before I started the XT. I no you dont want to hear this but A DOCTOR visit might be a good thing. Are you running Red Rice yeast? Good luck Wish I had a solid solution for you

  25. Do you feel any better after training? Im off my 4 week havoc cycle and i didnt think the depression or anxiety would bother me but its been rough since day 1 pct. On day 4 now and I find after i train i feel better but im having a real hard time sleeping. Im using torem and pcs.
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