d-drol pct

ezza · 03-30-2008, 10:59 PM

Ok so doing my first 4 week cyle of d-drol which i will try and log. This is going to be a fairly experimental cycle to hopefully fine out what works well for me..I have pre loaded heaps of support supplments for 2-3 weeks before cycle... also d-drol has a 300mg liver complex as well yay... my question really is Could i possibly follow this with a cyle of decavol and then do my pct....
For pct i will be using liquid nolva and a combination of 3 AI's, creatine, nitric, tribulus... and all the different support supplements you could want.
i'm either going to run the serm inverse to the AI or run the serm first and then follow with the AIs for my pct... what are some recommendations.

**delsolrob** · 03-30-2008, 11:24 PM

all previous posts put aside:

I wouldn't run the D-Drol for more than 3 weeks; not many people on this site rec running super for more than 3 weeks...the sides and shutdown would be horrible!

if you really want to use the decavol then I would start out with it and bridge it into the d-drol...I would think it would just cause more shutdown if you try to run it after the d-drol. But I wouldn't even bother with it right now...if D-drol has the actives it claims to have then there's not much need for anything else.

as far as PCT:I would run rebound XT inversely to your SERM. I would also include retain 2 for cort control along with a natty test booster like activate xtreme.

just my 2 cents

dmangiarelli · 03-31-2008, 11:03 AM

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I was thinking of running a cortisol blocker. But this cylce is starting to get expensive n gyno is my greatest concern ... i'm worried that nolva wasn't the best pick for serms as far as the super n phera goes...i am kinda doing loops with some of the information out there... so should i add another serm to the mix or will running the AI's AFTER the serm stop delayed gyno? or should i just run another serm solo like clomid and hold onto the nolva.... lastly is letrozol an AI or a serm... i've noticed a lot of reference's to letro being used for actuall treatment of gyno... sorry for all the questions i hope someone can help!

Torenifene is a better choice of a SERM. If you can find it, Cabergoline would be helpful to combat the prostaglandin rush from both of these compounds. An AI will not help with these progestins, the gyno you get from these is of the lactation type. High doses of B-6 will help in PCT and possibly while on cycle. Something like 6-oxo might help with delayed gyno. You would run it tapered down after your SERM for 3-4 weeks. The dosage would be 4/3/2/1 caps/day.

Letrozole is an AI and can treat gyno (formation of tissues in the breasts). It is a strong AI and sometimes works and sometimes not.

Good luck ...

**delsolrob** · 03-31-2008, 09:55 PM

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thanks delso, peace?

I'll always offer my advice (if I think I have a sound answer)...regardless of whether or not you like it:-)

I don't take offense at anything...just don't take offense back when I argue with you on here. I only argue when I think I'm right and I think you're wrong. that doens't mean that I'm always right though.

I know I need to let people make their own decisions; but I'll pass along what I think is sound advice...with their best interests in mind.

dmangiarelli · 04-01-2008, 12:11 AM

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thanks so much man I was really hoping to hear from you actually... I discovered your thread in bb.com. about over the counter pct with bloodwork just last night.... you are a tru champion! very keen to see how your next bloodwork goes.thanks again.

Thanks man. I am pretty confident (about 90%) that my PCT will be successful. The best advice I can give you is to make sure going in you know what you are dealing with and read about it and then read some more. There are a ton of good resources out there you just have to wade through the crap to find it. After about a day or two of reading you will be able to tell in about two or three sentences if what you are reading is crap or not.

ezza · 04-01-2008, 10:38 PM

ok thanks again! I picked up some b-6 today will have to get p5p next time though... i think i wll run my serm tapered down followed by the ai's tapered down in a hope to get straight back to normal and hopefully avoiding any rebound once pct is finished....i'm new to the actives so i'm being very cautious at the moment.... my first week i had 1 cap of d-drol which i'm assuming is 10mg super, 15 phera, 27fini and on about day 4 i got all the sides at onces, great big pimple on my chest and my nipples were noticably sore, lethargic ect (sometimes i forget i even have nipples) but i was very aware of them on this particular day .... i contemplated using my serm but decided to wait one day and it seems as quickly as the sides came they were gone...the next day i was feeling fine, actually woke up in a really good mood... balls dropped back down ect... i've since doubled the dose and i'm feeling really good about it.... very glad i started at half recommended dosage though!!!! i'm hoping this is a pretty normal response.

**delsolrob** · 04-02-2008, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ezza

ok thanks again! I picked up some b-6 today will have to get p5p next time though... i think i wll run my serm tapered down followed by the ai's tapered down in a hope to get straight back to normal and hopefully avoiding any rebound once pct is finished....i'm new to the actives so i'm being very cautious at the moment.... my first week i had 1 cap of d-drol which i'm assuming is 10mg super, 15 phera, 27fini and on about day 4 i got all the sides at onces, great big pimple on my chest and my nipples were noticably sore, lethargic ect (sometimes i forget i even have nipples) but i was very aware of them on this particular day .... i contemplated using my serm but decided to wait one day and it seems as quickly as the sides came they were gone...the next day i was feeling fine, actually woke up in a really good mood... balls dropped back down ect... i've since doubled the dose and i'm feeling really good about it.... very glad i started at half recommended dosage though!!!! i'm hoping this is a pretty normal response.

glad to hear the sided went away!

keep us posted on your cycle...I don't think I've seen a log for D-Drol.

dmangiarelli · 04-02-2008, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ezza

ok thanks again! I picked up some b-6 today will have to get p5p next time though... i think i wll run my serm tapered down followed by the ai's tapered down in a hope to get straight back to normal and hopefully avoiding any rebound once pct is finished....i'm new to the actives so i'm being very cautious at the moment.... my first week i had 1 cap of d-drol which i'm assuming is 10mg super, 15 phera, 27fini and on about day 4 i got all the sides at onces, great big pimple on my chest and my nipples were noticably sore, lethargic ect (sometimes i forget i even have nipples) but i was very aware of them on this particular day .... i contemplated using my serm but decided to wait one day and it seems as quickly as the sides came they were gone...the next day i was feeling fine, actually woke up in a really good mood... balls dropped back down ect... i've since doubled the dose and i'm feeling really good about it.... very glad i started at half recommended dosage though!!!! i'm hoping this is a pretty normal response.

Just go with it. You will be up and down and all over with D-Drol.

ezza · 04-02-2008, 12:37 AM

awesome exactly what i wanted to hear!

**delsolrob** · 04-06-2008, 05:18 PM

how's the cycle going?

ezza · 04-06-2008, 08:25 PM

well my left testicle fell off the other day is that normal?
hahah JOKING
Tomorrow is the end of week 2 and everything is going well, i haven't noticed many negative sides at all so far.. the only time i really even noticed anything was on day 4 at 1cap a day... i since started taking 225mg b-6 which seems to be working nicely.. no other negative sides to report so far.. up around 2kg which is like 4.4lbs, all this weight is from the last 6 days too. i seem to be adding mass daily...

**delsolrob** · 04-06-2008, 08:29 PM

nice to hear...roughly 3% increase in body mass in 2 weeks!

any noticable strength increase?

ezza · 04-06-2008, 09:07 PM

FIRST WEEK:
was a little lacking to be honest.Dosage wat 1 cap for the first week taken in the morning with breakfast.
Calories were between 2500-3000 very clean. I didn't notice much at all the first week except being a little less fatigued and being able to train that little bit harder and that i did! working out about 45min-1hour hour a day

SECOND WEEK:
Upped the dosage to 2 caps a day (8-12 hours between doses. Calories also went up to about 3500-4000 a day.My diet isn't as clean as the first week , adding calorie rich meals like mountains of rice with melted cheese and butter and lots of red meat. (not a good idea if your worried about cholesterol)
Volume of workouts is alot larger (1-2 hours), heavier weights higher reps sets of everything added a couple of super sets for things like shoulders and chest. Lots of squats and deadlifts as well. This seemed to do the trick .. this week Ive made gains of 2.4kg or 5.2 lbs wooo

NoEasyWayOut8 · 04-09-2008, 12:14 AM

Hey guys i'm just comin off my first bottle of d-drol and picked up some nolvadex... I've never used it before and am lookin for some advice... I have a liquid with one of those tubes you squeeze to suck it up with. It says 20mg per ML - 60ML vial. Do i have to mix this with something or is it sublingual or just drink it? How much should I take? Any advice is greatly appreciated

dmangiarelli · 04-09-2008, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by NoEasyWayOut8

Hey guys i'm just comin off my first bottle of d-drol and picked up some nolvadex... I've never used it before and am lookin for some advice... I have a liquid with one of those tubes you squeeze to suck it up with. It says 20mg per ML - 60ML vial. Do i have to mix this with something or is it sublingual or just drink it? How much should I take? Any advice is greatly appreciated

1.5 ML = 20 mgs mix it in some OJ cuz it tastes like ass