[rabican]

would a really low dose of torem such as:
days 1-4: 90mg
days 5-7: 60mg
week 2: 30mg

+

AI-PCS (2 pills ED)

be a strong enough pct for a 50mg 4wk hdrol cycle?

(i still haven't decided if i need a AI or cort blocker...)

[EasyEJL]

I think i'd take the PCS at 4 caps a day, a bottle is 120 caps so a months worth

[rabican]

so you think that torem dose is good or is it unnecessary?

vs sustain?

...thanks for input easy

[EasyEJL]

I'd think likely unnecessary for just 4 weeks of hdrol @ 50mg, unless you get suppressed very easily

[rabican]

Originally Posted by dmangiarelli

There is extensive writing on this by dinoii. Either way you go, it's under PCT a Clinician's view PCT Supplements in Practice. I recommend you read the whole thing (yes I know it's long) I am reading it through for the third time now and am starting really grasp a lot of the concepts he presents. I understand about 85% of the way the body works with these supplements now.

link to article?

[stxnas]

Can't link it here...it's another forum and it's blocked. The link wouldn't work if posted.

[rabican]

nm i found it on Google, thanks though! man its 4 parts very lengthy

[rabican]

how does these AI discussed compare with:

Indole-3-Carbinol
Chrysin
Diindolylmethane (DIM)

?

[Rob Awesome]

My vote ultimately goes to....

[Kristofer68SS]

okay i am looking at a PCS bottle right now........


IT states........

Lowers Estrogen, Increase Libido, Testosterone enhancer.......

Whats the dealio with the lowering estrogen, does it or doesnt it?

I have a friend that was going to do this:

4 weeks tren xtreme 90mg-ED
PCS-30 days- bottle directions
1 or 2 bottles 6-oxoX-60/4 caps-ED.

Test should be low, Estrogen will be high going into PCT.

will PCS help lower E or not? I dont want to kill the E, i just want to control it while test builds......... then come in with the 6-oxoX

I really do not believe research chems are needed for 4 weeks at this dosage.........

[thesinner]

Originally Posted by Daminals

Icariin aka horny goat weed never did anything for me. I got a big bottle for $9 at a vitamin store by my house. And I probably get too much of quercetin cause I drink tons of grapefruit juice and its loaded wit quercetin. I know quercetin helps wit absorbtion but what's in proven to do during your pct?

Icariin is NOT horny goat weed.

[thesinner]

Originally Posted by rabican

how does these AI discussed compare with:

Indole-3-Carbinol
Chrysin
Diindolylmethane (DIM)

?

I3C is not an aromatase inhibitor.

Chrysin and DIM are both competative inhibitors; whereas, 6-oxo is a suicidal inhibitor, which means it binds to the enzyme until you piss it out.

[thesinner]

Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS

okay i am looking at a PCS bottle right now........


IT states........

Lowers Estrogen, Increase Libido, Testosterone enhancer.......

Whats the dealio with the lowering estrogen, does it or doesnt it?

I have a friend that was going to do this:

4 weeks tren xtreme 90mg-ED
PCS-30 days- bottle directions
1 or 2 bottles 6-oxoX-60/4 caps-ED.

Test should be low, Estrogen will be high going into PCT.

will PCS help lower E or not? I dont want to kill the E, i just want to control it while test builds......... then come in with the 6-oxoX

I really do not believe research chems are needed for 4 weeks at this dosage.........

PCS will not drop estrogen levels dangerously low.

[Kristofer68SS]

Originally Posted by thesinner

PCS will not drop estrogen levels dangerously low.

So is this PCS vs. 6-oxoX a fair comparison?

I know its only 1 ingredient, but it is fairly significant.