Need help with a good PCT for M-drol

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    Need help with a good PCT for M-drol


    Ive been reading and reading and it seems that everone has a different oppinion on what to take.

    I'll be starting an M-drol cycle in the next few days and I just want to get my post cycle therapy down.

    what I have to take so far is AI Post Cycle Support (i wanna help the site out)
    Im gonna jump on some NOX also
    I trib mixture with all the herbal crap
    Im pretty sure I need to get a serm such as Nolva but some say that AI PCS is good enough. Is it?

    Can someone maybe shoot me over a PM as to where to get my hands on some research chems? from a reputable source that wont rip me off

    any other ideas on what to get for Post? Ive already got all my cycle supps so Im good there.

    what about:
    Nolva
    NOX
    AI PCSupport
    umm?



    thanks guys!

    ive read and read but cant get a good PCT lined up


    help me out here

    thannks!

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    No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT

    SERM + P.C.T Guide

    Now please, anyone is free to discuss this and tell me I've totally got it wrong or need to add something. Now with that said:

    Bloodwork! I cannot / we cannot say this enough that it is highly recommended to get bloodwork so you know how to run your PCT and WHAT you need to run on your PCT.


    1. SERM - Torem, Ralox, Nolvadex etc

    Example Torem Dosing: - As per Interlocutor
    Day 1-5 = 120mg Torm
    Day 6-21 = 60mg Torm
    Day 22-28 = 30mg Torm

    You should monitor this carefully and will most likely bounce back rather quickly with this SERM as per reports given by experienced users on the board. Please someone let me know if this is overkill for Torem

    Example Nolva Dosing:
    Wk1: 40,40,40,20,20,20,20
    Wk2: 20mg everyday
    Wk3: 10mg everyday
    Wk4: 10mg everyday

    I am not sure why anyone would go above these dosages, as per Dinoii, as the large body of studies / material backs up dosages no more than 40mg and mainly focuses on 20mg / 10mg dosage schemes. More is not better

    2. Cycle Support - Cycle Support(Highly Recommended), Liver Longer, Perfect Cycle, Liv52, NAC, SAMe.

    3. AI - Formestane(Highly Recommended), 6-OXO / Androstenetrione.

    4. Anti-Cort - X-Lean, Retain 2, Lean Xtreme, 11-OxO, Abliderate (8oz), B-Androstenetriol

    5. Test Booster - Good reviews or I have used: Sustain Alpha(Recommended), Drive, T-Force, Activate(original).

    NON-Rx SERM + P.C.T Guide

    1. Non Rx SERM - Post Cycle Support(Recommended), Sustain Alpha(Recommended)

    2. Cycle Support - Cycle Support(Highly Recommended), Liver Longer, Perfect Cycle, Liv52, NAC, SAMe, Advanced PCT.

    3. AI - Formestane(Recommended), Sustain Alpha(Recommended), 6-OXO / Androstenetrione.

    4. Anti-Cort - X-Lean, Retain 2, Lean Xtreme, 11-OxO, Abliderate (8oz), B-Androstenetriol

    5. Test Booster - Good reviews or have used the following: Sustain Alpha(Recommended), Drive, T-Force, Activate(original).

    All of the products and protocols above are open to discussion. This is not a hard and fast list but a guide to help.

    With that said Epistane style products on a non extreme usage style cycle are going to use a less extreme PCT. Better not to have huge hormonal swinging in either direction. Calm, steady and relative therapy is recommended.

    Things To Note

    1. You will most likely want to run your AI (Formestane) for a month or so after finishing your PCT therapy to make sure you experience no estrogen rebound / flooding. If you run your PCT for four weeks, as you ramp down on your SERM etc ramp up on your Formestane / AI so, to as keep your estrogen under control. There has been talk of SERMs actually exacerbating this problem due to kicking test up too high then *boom!* man boobs!

    2. Once done your PCT, and AI time ramp it down slowly until about one month after PCT


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    Do no follow Danes advice for PCT but definitely add a good multivitamin to your daily regime
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    Definitely listen to neoborn. He's very knowledgable, especially when it comes to writing informative guides for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Absolutely listen to MuscleGuyInNY he speaks the truth
    You're one of the few AM members that I've seen contribute so much to this place.
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    ok as per Neoborn's instructions,

    what about:
    Nolva ( dont know where to get it)
    Metacort transdermal has 7-OXO / Androstenetrione in it.
    AI Post Cycle SUpport
    and maybe some retain2

    now on his Non-RX Serm post cycle therapy
    doesnt list Nolva, has AI Post cycle support been shown to be good enough for an M-drol cycle?

    is the serm really that needed?

    edit) ok i found the research chem site that I got my tamox years ago. So im good there.
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    I would run Nolva 40/40/20/20
    Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support
    Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support
    Trione/6 oxo
    Alpha Drive XL or some Trib based product

    Order it nice and early, so you don't have to delay your post cycle like I just had to do, cuz I waited to long and *****ed myself. Luckily, it was Halodrol, so really no need to worry to much, but with M Drol, it's best to have it on hand right away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleGuyinNY View Post
    You're one of the few AM members that I've seen contribute so much to this place.
    Ahh thanks man, that means much, I don't get much credit from the guys around here because they are the pro's that I learn from

    To be honest like my signature says, I am no guru and don't necessarily know much but am learning like most here and like to pass on what I have learnt.

    Never take my word for it and follow up with others to make sure.
    Last edited by neoborn; 02-27-2008 at 05:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Ahh thanks man, that means much, I don't get much credit from the guys around here because they are the pro's that I learn from

    To be honest like my signature says, I am no guru and don't necessarily know much but am learning like most here and like to pass on what I have learn't.

    Never take my word for and follow up with others to make sure.
    i too feel like u are very knowledgeable, and i have personally learned things from u
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    Quote Originally Posted by neoborn View Post
    Do no follow Danes advice for post cycle therapy but definitely add a good multivitamin to your daily regime
    My bad, I was thinking of the PCT for Halodrol Liquigels.

    :bb3:
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