[Schism]

Originally Posted by Ziquor

Wow, I don't even wanna go there. That's a thought.

Yea, and a bad one! But these shell companies have to get their investors for somewhere, usually another/bigger supp company with no apparent ties to the shell. And I'm sure this is nothing new to you. But I wonder

[Schism]

Anyways I'd like to get this thread back on track here. Or at least make some attempt to. lol.. Anyone out there got any experiences, good or bad in regards to their pcts?

[Ziquor]

Originally Posted by poopypants

so you know bud most reps dont even get paid, they do this on their own time with close to zero compensation.... myself included.

I DO get free IBE supps but not anymore since the company is in a rears and has none to even give, havnt received any"incentive" since like last july.... I purley fight for what i belive is right and wrong AND THAT is wh i was chosen to be a rep, not cause im some schill who will tell you what the man wants you to hear.

Hey Poopy. When I mentioned the above it was aimed sorta toward a specific someone, but not you in any way whatsoever. You seem to really know what your talkin about & have the experience to back it as well. But I believe it's somewhat true about certain people caring about the $$$ more so than what happens to peoples health. Even if not reps there are many people here on AM that do work for, and in some cases have ownership in, supplement companys. This is what I was aiming at. But back to the topic at hand I know you personally used Torem for your Epi cycle. How does it compare to Nolva? I heard it was stronger? I got my Nolva because it was a really great deal but am now wondering if I should've got Torem instead.

[Cub]

My Superdrol log is now up. I start on the 18th.

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by poopypants

so you know bud most reps dont even get paid, they do this on their own time with close to zero compensation.... myself included.

I DO get free IBE supps but not anymore since the company is in a rears and has none to even give, havnt received any"incentive" since like last july.... I purley fight for what i belive is right and wrong AND THAT is wh i was chosen to be a rep, not cause im some schill who will tell you what the man wants you to hear.

Well said poop! Just because you're a rep doesn't mean you abandon your beliefs or practices. I do this because i believe in RPN and all the products they put out. I myself am a health care professional myself and my job is to provide a service while being a patient advocate in the process. If i didn't trust or believe in what i'm doing, i wouldn't be doing it......period!!

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by Ziquor

Hey Poopy. When I mentioned the above it was aimed sorta toward a specific someone, but not you in any way whatsoever. You seem to really know what your talkin about & have the experience to back it as well. But I believe it's somewhat true about certain people caring about the $$$ more so than what happens to peoples health. Even if not reps there are many people here on AM that do work for, and in some cases have ownership in, supplement companys. This is what I was aiming at. But back to the topic at hand I know you personally used Torem for your Epi cycle. How does it compare to Nolva? I heard it was stronger? I got my Nolva because it was a really great deal but am now wondering if I should've got Torem instead.

Actually... yes I "feel" torem is much better. At the very least its effects are much more noticable in a more shorter period of time. Although Ive used Nolva for both a standalone with Rebound XT (ATD) to get rid of gyno and also for a couple pct's and they all went off without a hitch. The nolva right now is dirt cheap especially in comparison to Torem. but I just like torem so damn much, the way it makes me feel, the quickness that i return to norm and the fact atht with this quickness I feel its easier to retain and even improve on my gains during pct as well.

I wouldnt go off and buy torem though If i were you (unless money isnt really an object for you) and just use your tamox, its def able to do the job... like I said though if money is no object then you can always just keep the nolva on hand for future use or on cycle use if you ever run something that aromatizes alot and grab some torem given this will be your first cycle and it would be nice to keep as muc gains as possible and make sure your PCT is pleasant.

[Ziquor]

Thanks Poopy, much help as always. Hey Trauma quick question on a side note... I got a couple Havoc's I'll use someday and RPN's stuff looks great from what I see & hear but what else do they make? I was looking for a website for them and all I found is a forum site. PS why'd you change your avy, because the Pats suck? hahaha j/k I don't even wanna get the started again.

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by Ziquor

Thanks Poopy, much help as always. Hey Trauma quick question on a side note... I got a couple Havoc's I'll use someday and RPN's stuff looks great from what I see & hear but what else do they make? I was looking for a website for them and all I found is a forum site. PS why'd you change your avy, because the Pats suck? hahaha j/k I don't even wanna get the started again.

What, you don't like my sexy new avy? Don't make me bring brady back now hahaha .......The store is in the process of being set up actually. I encourage you to check out our AM forum in the mean time as well as the sticky's on our products. RPN has many great products to choose from. Hijack over, back to the topic at hand........

[glipp]

So what if you did a 6 week pulse of EPI. Would you feel a SERM was necessary for this? Dose no higher than 40 mg for example.

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by glipp

So what if you did a 6 week pulse of EPI. Would you feel a SERM was necessary for this? Dose no higher than 40 mg for example.

depends how pulsy your pulsing it LOL

really though how many days a week are you pulsing and are you ramping up to 40mg?

Are you going to take an AI on your off days or a test booster? these are all things to take into consideration...

BUT in all honesty I doubt a SERM will be necessary, keep one on hand for the unknown but dont plan on using it, a small OTC post cycle therapy as insurance after the cycle will most likely set you straight if needed at all... again answer the questions above, Length, dosing schedule, possible HTPA/AI support supps alternated with pulse and I can help ya a lil more.

[glipp]

Originally Posted by poopypants

depends how pulsy your pulsing it LOL

really though how many days a week are you pulsing and are you ramping up to 40mg?

Are you going to take an AI on your off days or a test booster? these are all things to take into consideration...

BUT in all honesty I doubt a SERM will be necessary, keep one on hand for the unknown but dont plan on using it, a small OTC post cycle therapy as insurance after the cycle will most likely set you straight if needed at all... again answer the questions above, Length, dosing schedule, possible HTPA/AI support supps alternated with pulse and I can help ya a lil more.

This is what the idea is for 3x/ week dose schedule:

week 1 10, 20, 30
week 2 30, 30, 30
week 3 30, 30, 40
week 4 40, 40, 40
week 5 40, 40, 40
week 6 40, 40, 40

PCT would be
Post Cycle Support
Hyperdrol x-2
Formadrol extreme
X-Lean

Novedex X-T on off days. SERM on hand if needed. Is this sufficient?

[Schism]

Originally Posted by glipp

This is what the idea is for 3x/ week dose schedule:

week 1 10, 20, 30
week 2 30, 30, 30
week 3 30, 30, 40
week 4 40, 40, 40
week 5 40, 40, 40
week 6 40, 40, 40

post cycle therapy would be
Post Cycle Support
Hyperdrol x-2
Formadrol extreme
X-Lean

Novedex X-T on off days. SERM on hand if needed. Is this sufficient?

This looks good to me.
Thanks for doing your own homework before posting. Though me personally, I would loose the formadrol extreme. As I have heard that product it sh!t. Everything else looks good and well thought out. Good job!

[Trauma1]

Originally Posted by glipp

This is what the idea is for 3x/ week dose schedule:

week 1 10, 20, 30
week 2 30, 30, 30
week 3 30, 30, 40
week 4 40, 40, 40
week 5 40, 40, 40
week 6 40, 40, 40

post cycle therapy would be
Post Cycle Support
Hyperdrol x-2
Formadrol extreme
X-Lean

Novedex X-T on off days. SERM on hand if needed. Is this sufficient?

Cycle looks good, but formadrol extreme and Hyperdrol X-2 are both AI's, so using one should suffice. I'd maybe throw in some creatine in pct also. Otherwise it looks very solid.