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    Many members have reported that using a SERM, or an AI, to reduce gyno can be effective. Some have used a SERM plus ATD(for example), and have also been successful. Research has shown that Ralox is the best SERM for gyno reduction. My discussion/question is which AI would be best for reducing gyno when stacked with Ralox, Aromasin, Anastrozole, Letrozole, Formestane, ATD or other. Aromasin has been recommmended due to it being a steroidal AI, and less prone to aggravating gyno when off.

    I am plannnig a similar setup to what RenegadeRows, but using Aromasin instead of ATD, unless this discussion proves another to be a better solution. And the tapering down I chose is to reduce rebound as much as possible.

    Dosing will be late in the PM, about an hour apart (ED=EveryDay, EOD=EveryOtherDay, E3D=EveryThirdDay)
    Week 1: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro ED
    Week 2: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro ED
    Week 3: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro ED
    Week 4: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro ED
    Week 5: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro ED
    Week 6: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro ED
    Week 7: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro EOD
    Week 8: 60mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro EOD
    Week 9: 30mg Ralox ED, 25mg Aro E3D
    Week 10: 30mg Ralox EOD

    If anything looks out of place/wrong, please post and include any input on which substances you would prefer. TIA

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    Any input would be appreciated, whether you think this setup is good to go or if it is wrong in any way.
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    Nobody has anything to say, thats kinda disappointing.

    I know some bodybuilders have had success with letro as a standalone, is that recommended over a setup like this??
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    so are u trying to reduce gyno, or prevent gyno?
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    Reduce, I have had it since I was 12/13.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJoeski3 View Post
    Reduce, I have had it since I was 12/13.
    Really, you have to see for yourself. Usually,chemical treatment doesn't work on puberty induced gyno from what I have read. But give it a shot and post your results if it works or not.
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    Really... well that sucks.

    Do you see that as a setup that would normally reduce gyno?
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    bump i am interested to know as well, ATD or aromasin.
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    btw bigjoeski, from what i have heard, and i may be totally wrong on this, ralox should be dosed a bit higher, say at like 120mg and tapperd down to 60mg. Again, take my advice for what its worth and confirm it with someone more knowledgeable like Dr.D or Renegaderows.
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    Have you consulted your Primary Care Doctor about this issue since it is a legit medical issue? I would assume they could give you good advice and maybe even a treatment plan right?
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    unfortunately most doctors dont have a clue when it comes to gyno and most are unwilling to prescribe anything to deal with it. None of these serms have sufficient clinical backing in dealing with gyno to even be considered by a doctor and as a result most doctors are again unwilling to recommend anything with the exception of surgery which again most insurance companies are unwilling to cover because they see it as a cosmetic issue. I just went through this whole ordeal with my doctor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    unfortunately most doctors dont have a clue when it comes to gyno and most are unwilling to prescribe anything to deal with it. None of these serms have sufficient clinical backing in dealing with gyno to even be considered by a doctor and as a result most doctors are again unwilling to recommend anything with the exception of surgery which again most insurance companies are unwilling to cover because they see it as a cosmetic issue. I just went through this whole ordeal with my doctor.
    Insurance companies declining cosmetic surgery is a big joke sometimes. MD's should have the sway enough that if they recommend surgery for medical reasons that it would be covered. I bet if you were having pain in the area's (ex. pain in the breast tissue) they might be more inclined to fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaponeCEO View Post
    Insurance companies declining cosmetic surgery is a big joke sometimes. MD's should have the sway enough that if they recommend surgery for medical reasons that it would be covered. I bet if you were having pain in the area's (ex. pain in the breast tissue) they might be more inclined to fix it.
    Thats exactly what i thought my friend. I told them i had horrible pain and i couldn't sleep from it and it was ruining my life, the physical pain not the cosmetic aspect. You know what they said?
    In order to cover it you need to see an endo, which i did, some other crap i cant remember, and have the gyno observed for 12 months by your primary care. Fkers
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigbb123 View Post
    Thats exactly what i thought my friend. I told them i had horrible pain and i couldn't sleep from it and it was ruining my life, the physical pain not the cosmetic aspect. You know what they said?
    In order to cover it you need to see an endo, which i did, some other crap i cant remember, and have the gyno observed for 12 months by your primary care. Fkers
    What a JOKE. Monitored for 12 months? They cant refer you to a specialist? Some PCP's dont like doing it but I wonder if there is a resource out there they could refer you to.
  

  
 

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