Expiry Date of SERMs

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I have an open bottle of Nolva and an unopened bottle of Clomid from a local "lab". I bought the SERMs a year and a half ago and both are in capsule form (i.e. not liquid).

They both have an expiry date of early 2008 on them so I'm wondering if anyone knows if they will still be useable/effective beyond this expiry date. I know that other compounds can be frozen/vacuum sealed to extend shelf life but am uncertain as to whether this is valid for SERMs as well.
 

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if it is in capsule form, yes you should be able to freeze it to prolong shelf life. how long exactly? i'm not sure. i work in a pharmacy, so i'll ask the pharmacist for you and get back with you later tonight if nobody else has replied.
 
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if it is in capsule form, yes you should be able to freeze it to prolong shelf life. how long exactly? i'm not sure. i work in a pharmacy, so i'll ask the pharmacist for you and get back with you later tonight if nobody else has replied.
thanks so much bro...I REALLY appreciate it!
 
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and im also wondering how long my bottle of liquid toremifene is good to last as well??
 

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thanks so much bro...I REALLY appreciate it!
Your caps will last anywhere between 1 and 2 yrs after the exp. date if put in the freezer. i would say anytime after a year and a half, they would start to lose a little potency. they'd still be good though. glad i could help, man.
 

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and im also wondering how long my bottle of liquid toremifene is good to last as well??

if the bottle has not been opened, it should last at least 1 year. you do not want to freeze this though since it is a liquid. as long as it stays within room temperature i.e. not above 75 degrees, it wil be fine
 
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well, I actually used a little bit of the bottle from a PCT that was in september. I ran out of one bottle and had to dip into the second one to finish off the PCT. its in a cool, dry, dark place so how long do you think I have with it?
 

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if the bottle has not been opened, it should last at least 1 year. you do not want to freeze this though since it is a liquid. as long as it stays within room temperature i.e. not above 75 degrees, it wil be fine
i take this statement back after doing more research. they are good for up to 8 months, but no longer.
 

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well, I actually used a little bit of the bottle from a post cycle therapy that was in september. I ran out of one bottle and had to dip into the second one to finish off the PCT. its in a cool, dry, dark place so how long do you think I have with it?
It will be good until May.
 
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i take this statement back after doing more research. they are good for up to 8 months, but no longer.
wow good info, I was always unsure of this. Looks like my supply has to be used up real soon:twisted:
 

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Not to hijack, but does anyone know the shelf life of nolva??
 

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Not to hijack, but does anyone know the shelf life of nolva??
If it is liquid nolva, then 8 months tops. If it is in tablet form, it's good for about 2 years. This applies to almost all liquid or tablet forms of medications.
 
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K, so at the moment I can get some insane deals on Clomid and Torm, but my cycle isn't scheduled until August, with pct starting at the very end of August, and I really don't wanna miss out on these deals.. So, what do you guys think? Will my SERMies still be fresh?
 

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you will be fine as long as you do not open them. the pharmacist told me the 8 month rule applies to opened liquid medications. unopened they will be good for about 2 years or so. btw i sent you a pm.
 
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No offense to bassgod, but please be honest:
Let's keep in mind that the 8 months is a rough general estimate that he is putting out there, as admitted in another thread. The simple fact is I've seen them still work after 2 years.

Same for talking about "after it's opened" since none of them use a vacuum seal anyway. They were basically opened when they were manufactured.
 

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No offense to bassgod, but please be honest:
Let's keep in mind that the 8 months is a rough general estimate that he is putting out there, as admitted in another thread. The simple fact is I've seen them still work after 2 years.

Same for talking about "after it's opened" since none of them use a vacuum seal anyway. They were basically opened when they were manufactured.

first, i would like to say thank you for the info n4cer. second, if you look at a few companies' sites, they say their chems are good for 2 - 3 years after you purchase them. the figures i gave out in previous posts came directly from a registered pharmacist regarding actual laboratory manufactured strict fda controlled prescription medications. with this in mind, they obviously keep safety and conservativeness in highest regard when giving information. when it comes to research chems, safety is pretty much non-existent. you're rolling the dice so to speak everytime you deal with them. i have never purchased any of the mentioned items myself, so i had no idea they were not sealed. now that i know this, i will DEFINITELY stick to 8 months. that is just me, again you guys can do whatever you wish. i also do not care to have any of these items in my posession for extended periods of time. to each their own. take care.
 
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And I FULLY respect that you are giving an educated opinion. It is great to have access to such information. I only want to point out that the info is generic and not compound specific. Also expiration dates are used to make money - if you think the potency of york medicatin may be compromised you will buy more, as you indicated.

The good news is that I ran a liquid ancillary biz in the past for long enough that not only do i have a pharmacological education, but also life expriences for education. I can tell you that - at least for my formulations - 24 months is a food time frame to view as a "use by" date.
 
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Oh and why worry about possessing them? If you work in a pharmacy you should know there is no charge for possession of these non-scheduled compounds.
 

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Oh and why worry about possessing them? If you work in a pharmacy you should know there is no charge for possession of these non-scheduled compounds.
i sent you a pm.
 

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Do you have any idea how Toremifene would be if it was stored in a place that was not climate controlled during the summer? I put two unopened bottles in a climate controlled storage shed, and the climate control went out. I was not there for a couple of months, so I don't know how long it was out.
 

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do you have any idea how hot/cold it got?
 
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It won't matter. It was heated warmer than that to get it into its solution I'm sure.
 

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Probably 90 to probably 40. It just depends on how long the climate control had been out.
 
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