tamoxifen citrate-tamoxifen question

  1. tamoxifen citrate-tamoxifen question


    I read that 15.2mgtamoxifen citrate=10mg tamoxifen. So if I have a solution of 20mg/Ml then to take a correct dosage on a 40 day in a PCT then I would technically have to take 3 mL, am I reading this correctly?

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    The weight of the citrate is approximately 33%. So multiply what you dose of TC by .67 to get the amount of T.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Brian5225 View Post
    I read that 15.2mgtamoxifen citrate=10mg tamoxifen. So if I have a solution of 20mg/Ml then to take a correct dosage on a 40 day in a post cycle therapy then I would technically have to take 3 mL, am I reading this correctly?
    when people talk about "tamoxifen" they are talking about tamoxifen citrate. that is the form everyone uses (on their lab animals).

    youre going to want to just take the 2mls for 40mgs of tamoxifen citrate.
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  4. Okay, so basically the dosages most speak of anyway is just the tamoxifen citrate? so if someone is going for Nolva, then they would just take tamoxifen citrate?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Brian5225 View Post
    Okay, so basically the dosages most speak of anyway is just the tamoxifen citrate? so if someone is going for Nolva, then they would just take tamoxifen citrate?
    bingo

    nolvadex=nolva=tamoxifen=tamox ifen citrate.

    tamoxifen citrate is the only form you are going to find it in.

  6. Yeah, but what if someone somehow is able to obtain it through a prescription and gets the tabs? Does that guy actually end up dosing over regulation?
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    Over regulation?

    There are people who dose 60mg of tamoxifen citrate to achieve a 40mg dose of tamoxifen or 30mg of tamoxifen citrate to achieve 20mg tamoxifen.

    People who used Nolvadex tabs from pharmacies instead of liquid research chemicals suppliers used 20mg tablet of Nolvadex which contain 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.
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  8. when I make the statement overregulation, I mean over regulation if I'm meaning to take 40 mg.
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    I don't get what you are saying.

    Some have used nolvadex from their early days. They dosed 20mg nolvadex (tamoxifen) tablets. Now in the advent of the chem research retailer, when using tamoxifen citrate, they use 30mg (1.5ml) to dose the equivalent of 20mg tamoxifen.
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  10. Chem houses take the citrate into consideration when they mix a batch up. 20mg of their stuff by label amounts is the same as a 20mg pill.

  11. NOLVADEX̉ (tamoxifen citrate) Tablets, a nonsteroidal antiestrogen, are for oral administration. NOLVADEX Tablets are available as:

    10 mg Tablets

    Each tablet contains 15.2 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 10 mg of tamoxifen.

    20 mg Tablets

    Each tablet contains 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.
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    I know what nolvadex is, we're both stating the same thing here.
    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    Nolvadex which contain 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.
    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    20 mg Tablets

    Each tablet contains 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.
    But if you are telling him to take 2ml or 40mg of tamoxifen citrate
    youre going to want to just take the 2mls for 40mgs of tamoxifen citrate.
    he is only getting 30mg of tamoxifen. The issue is does he want 40mg of tamoxifen or 40mg of tamoxifen citrate. I'll let you fine young men figure this out for yourselves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    Chem houses take the citrate into consideration when they mix a batch up. 20mg of their stuff by label amounts is the same as a 20mg pill.
    Are you sure about that. Most labels I've seen say 20mg/ml tamoxifen citrate. I would think that if it were 20mg/ml tamoxifen than it would state tamoxifen. Unless of course you are assuming that the seller is taking this into consideration. I have seen one say so but I trust that about as much as trusting it will be here in a timely manner
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  14. im not disagreeing i am just showing him something a bit more official from a medication website

    and i highly doubt most chem sites take the subtract citrate weight into consideration. however, most people will not notice the difference....tamoxifen is too commonly overdosed. a little bit goes a long way. for the sake of ease, i wouldnt spread around how the tabs and research chems differ. that will spawn a whole new wave of pct retardo questions.

    just take 2ml's and consider it 40mgs

  15. Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    Are you sure about that. Most labels I've seen say 20mg/ml tamoxifen citrate. I would think that if it were 20mg/ml tamoxifen than it would state tamoxifen. Unless of course you are assuming that the seller is taking this into consideration. I have seen one say so but I trust that about as much as trusting it will be here in a timely manner
    lol.. I get what you are saying. I probably asked the same company that you saw state this. It is just what I've been told. I could not prove it if I had to. With these kind of companies "trust" is a huge issue. I have very little of that left for them though.

  16. So what is the difference between the pharm caps and research solutions and which one should I use after my methyldrol Epi pulse?
    Recent log:http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplement-reviews-logs/213350-lean-efx-refined.html

  17. Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    im not disagreeing i am just showing him something a bit more official from a medication website

    and i highly doubt most chem sites take the subtract citrate weight into consideration. however, most people will not notice the difference....tamoxifen is too commonly overdosed. a little bit goes a long way. for the sake of ease, i wouldnt spread around how the tabs and research chems differ. that will spawn a whole new wave of post cycle therapy retardo questions.

    just take 2ml's and consider it 40mgs
    Yeah, I was strongly considering this because of all the claims that I've seen through research that most people are dosing quite high, even with 40mg. I'll just take it as 2mL and see how everything goes. If I need it, I can always dose higher later on if anything goes wrong.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bpmartyr View Post
    So what is the difference between the pharm caps and research solutions and which one should I use after my methyldrol Epi pulse?
    Just use Novadex XT.

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  19. Yeah, I hear a lot of teenagers say that it's a staple in their PCT!!!

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Brian5225 View Post
    Yeah, but what if someone somehow is able to obtain it through a prescription and gets the tabs? Does that guy actually end up dosing over regulation?
    USP tabs are tamoxifen citrate. Jomi's right, that is the only form you'll find it in whether prescribed or not.

  21. I know, the point is that the tabs are actually dosed at 15.2 mg tamoxifen citrate to equal 10mg tamoxifen. I appreciate the help guys thanks.

  22. I know that back when Hi-Cal had a line of liquids and also when his were carried by a research supply company, they were dosed as you'd find it in the pharmacy. So tamoxifen was actually 30.4mg/ml BUT with clomiphene is is 50mg of CLOMIPHENE CITRATE in pharmaceutical form, so it was dosed properly at 50mg. With clomiphene, the citrate weight isn't taken into account like with tamoxifen.

    C1 now follows this as well as of the last time we discussed it.
  

  
 

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