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  1. Best cortisol blocker?


    Vote! I'm trying to pick one for PCT. I only picked a few of the big ones.


  2. i only used xlean. it seemed to work fine. but who knows for sure

  3. During PCT w/ a SERM use:

    DHEA at 200mg first week, 150mg second week, 100mg third week and 50mg fourth week.

    At other times 2 grams of Vitamin C pre-workout.

    Save your money...you don't need those expensive supplements.
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  4. I agree with DatBeTrue, however, some don't like to use DHEA in PCT for certain reasons being debated. I would say if you have the money, go for Retain 2, but doubled dosed would be best. It's underdosed. Yeah. It is.

    If you want awesome recomp, cortisol control, and elevated fatloss, go for 7-Cort (8oz size) by Dermabolics and use 5 sprays in the morning and 5 sprays at night transdermally. It's about 35 bucks for a month. It's awesome.
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    If you want awesome recomp, cortisol control, and elevated fatloss, go for 7-Cort (8oz size) by Dermabolics and use 5 sprays in the morning and 5 sprays at night transdermally. It's about 35 bucks for a month. It's awesome.
    Thanks for bringing this up. I was wondering about 7-Cort...I've been back and forth on it and finally decided to add some to my shopping cart the other night. So I'll give it a go.

    Now that I see you recommend it I'm sure it will be a great product for my nonhormonal recomp.

  6. Straight DHEA? Isn't that suppressive?

  7. I like ReduceXT by SNS, myself

  8. what about 7-keto DHEA? Isn't that non hormonal and has cortisol blocking effects ?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by datBtrue View Post
    Thanks for bringing this up. I was wondering about 7-Cort...I've been back and forth on it and finally decided to add some to my shopping cart the other night. So I'll give it a go.

    Now that I see you recommend it I'm sure it will be a great product for my nonhormonal recomp.
    I also just picked some up. Did you see the product they have called metacort? It has 6 oxo and 7 oxo. I think I may give it a try sometime.

  10. Retain 2 - liked Retain, but love R2

  11. Quote Originally Posted by datBtrue View Post
    During post cycle therapy w/ a SERM use:

    DHEA at 200mg first week, 150mg second week, 100mg third week and 50mg fourth week.

    At other times 2 grams of Vitamin C pre-workout.

    Save your money...you don't need those expensive supplements.
    I agree here, but I also believe Retain 2 is a good product form experience. I definitely noticed stronger effects when I upped the dose. (so Forceofgreen you are right about that)...Id like to here more about the 7-cort's effectiveness.

  12. Using Lean Xtreme right now on cycle, no problems with it, I take it as directed and feel a bit tighter than I did before starting. I like the fact of the 7-OH it has.

  13. retain vs lean exterme....

  14. i used retain 2 last PCT and I sort of feel like i had a rebound from it. I think I may go with lean extreme this time...or just mega dose Vitc and use some ralora and maybe 7-OH

  15. retain 2 gets my vote
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    I'm trying Restore myself, along with PCS as I wrote in another thread. I'm expecting it to do just what I need it to do, and this combo is not too expensive at all.

  17. I like Retain2, however does anyone know of a good-strong cort blocker that doesn't include DHEA in it?

  18. I'll go for a combination of Lean Xtreme, Relora, and Ashwagandha.
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  19. Never enough
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    how bout phosphatatidyl serine?
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by datBtrue View Post
    During PCT w/ a SERM use:

    DHEA at 200mg first week, 150mg second week, 100mg third week and 50mg fourth week.

    At other times 2 grams of Vitamin C pre-workout.

    Save your money...you don't need those expensive supplements.
    Expensive??? when was the last time you looked up the price on X-Lean?

    Ive seen it as low as 20 bucks before. That is a STEAL for what it is, I think that its very underrated, mostly cause many havnt tried it and stick to AX's and DS's. IBE put alot of research into it and it will provide you with more then just cortisol blocking. It can actually increase the strength of you immune system on multiple levels... and just think we are working on an improved version as we speak

  21. Quote Originally Posted by poopypants View Post
    Expensive??? when was the last time you looked up the price on X-Lean?

    Ive seen it as low as 20 bucks before. That is a STEAL for what it is, I think that its very underrated, mostly cause many havnt tried it and stick to AX's and DS's. IBE put alot of research into it and it will provide you with more then just cortisol blocking. It can actually increase the strength of you immune system on multiple levels... and just think we are working on an improved version as we speak
    X-Lean is a good product for keeping cortisol levels at bay during intense exercise. If you megadose it, you can sit around and do nothing and lose fat.
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  22. Never enough
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    What are the risks/negative sides (if any) of cortisol too low?
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    What are the risks/negative sides (if any) of cortisol too low?
    Creeky joints, aches, pains, fatigue, and if you don't taper down whatever anti-cort supplement you're on... you're in for one HELL of a rebound!
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  24. Never enough
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    so basically you feel like you are in your 40s?
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    so basically you feel like you are in your 40s?
    Yeah, I had it happen one time while stacking some anti-cort products for too long.
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    sigh, the sarcasm was lost
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  27. DS LX caused a major decrease in appetite for me, which is good because I'm cutting, and an indicator that my cortisol has been lowered.

    My favorite.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    sigh, the sarcasm was lost
    Oops... lol. I didn't mean it like that
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  29. If retain has DHEA and causes suppression, then why would anyone want to use it in their PCT?
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    it has 7-keto dhea, which isn't suppressive
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  31. Who still carries Lean Extreme?

  32. you can get relacore for 16 bucks and it has dhea in it. So it controls cortisol and converts to test.

  33. 7-keto actually is suppressive, despite what most manufactures claim. Its not really desirable for PCT.

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    -Pp

  34. Good Call. EndoAmp all the way


  35. I'm a HUGE fan of p-serine! EndoAmp looks like a sick formula!
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  36. Very true

  37. How should Lean Extreme be tapered, i was gonna do 4 pills a day for the first two weeks......3 pills a day for the third week......and 2 pills a day for the fourth week........sound alright?

  38. would 11 oxo be good for controlling cortisol in pct

  39. Quote Originally Posted by spartanking62 View Post
    would 11 oxo be good for controlling cortisol in pct
    I would be hesitant to use the 11-oxo during PCT because it is also a steroid hormone, which may pose the same down regulation of the HPTA as the DHEA metabolites (7-oxo, 5-AT, ect). Of course, this might not be the case, but no research has been done with 11-oxo to prove otherwise as far as I know.

    -Pp

  40. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    I would be hesitant to use the 11-oxo during PCT because it is also a steroid hormone, which may pose the same down regulation of the HPTA as the DHEA metabolites (7-oxo, 5-AT, ect). Of course, this might not be the case, but no research has been done with 11-oxo to prove otherwise as far as I know.

    -Pp
    At VERY low doses, I would venture a guess that it would be ok (2-3 caps spread out), but nothing more.

    I can use Endoamp from day one of PCT, right?
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