Poll: Which is the best cortisol blocker?

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Best cortisol blocker?

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  1. Who still carries Lean Extreme?


  2. you can get relacore for 16 bucks and it has dhea in it. So it controls cortisol and converts to test.
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  3. 7-keto actually is suppressive, despite what most manufactures claim. Its not really desirable for PCT.

    More info here -
    The #1 Cortisol Blocker

    -Pp

  4. Good Call. EndoAmp all the way


  5. I'm a HUGE fan of p-serine! EndoAmp looks like a sick formula!
    Freedom means nothing here.
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  6. Very true

  7. How should Lean Extreme be tapered, i was gonna do 4 pills a day for the first two weeks......3 pills a day for the third week......and 2 pills a day for the fourth week........sound alright?

  8. would 11 oxo be good for controlling cortisol in pct

  9. Quote Originally Posted by spartanking62 View Post
    would 11 oxo be good for controlling cortisol in pct
    I would be hesitant to use the 11-oxo during PCT because it is also a steroid hormone, which may pose the same down regulation of the HPTA as the DHEA metabolites (7-oxo, 5-AT, ect). Of course, this might not be the case, but no research has been done with 11-oxo to prove otherwise as far as I know.

    -Pp

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    I would be hesitant to use the 11-oxo during PCT because it is also a steroid hormone, which may pose the same down regulation of the HPTA as the DHEA metabolites (7-oxo, 5-AT, ect). Of course, this might not be the case, but no research has been done with 11-oxo to prove otherwise as far as I know.

    -Pp
    At VERY low doses, I would venture a guess that it would be ok (2-3 caps spread out), but nothing more.

    I can use Endoamp from day one of PCT, right?
    Freedom means nothing here.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Force of Green View Post
    At VERY low doses, I would venture a guess that it would be ok (2-3 caps spread out), but nothing more.

    I can use Endoamp from day one of PCT, right?
    Yep, EndoAmp is totally acceptable for PCT.

    Itís hard to say on the 11-oxoÖ it definitely needs more human research.

    -Pp

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    Yep, EndoAmp is totally acceptable for PCT.

    -Pp
    how would you recommend dosing it for PCT? I'd prefer to use EndoAmp in order to keep my nuts growing during PCT =P.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    how would you recommend dosing it for PCT? I'd prefer to use EndoAmp in order to keep my nuts growing during PCT =P.
    The EndoAmp will come with a dosing scoop. Just take 2 leveled scoops daily.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by MaxGolf View Post
    The EndoAmp will come with a dosing scoop. Just take 2 leveled scoops daily.

    There's no need to taper down or anything for PCT? I hear this stuff about rebound from suppressed cortisol or whatever...

  15. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    There's no need to taper down or anything for PCT? I hear this stuff about rebound from suppressed cortisol or whatever...

    No need to taper down or anything bro. This doesnít happen with PS (Phosphatidylserine)

  16. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    how bout phosphatatidyl serine?
    ive had good results with it. the problem w blocking cort is the rebound you get after. im pretty sure the phosphatatidyl and cissus keeps the cort from binding but doesnt actually block it from the adrenals. thats what i found from trying to research it but correct me if im wrong. i know personally that i got serious rebound from 7-oxo-dhea

  17. Quote Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    ive had good results with it. the problem w blocking cort is the rebound you get after. im pretty sure the phosphatatidyl and cissus keeps the cort from binding but doesnt actually block it from the adrenals. thats what i found from trying to research it but correct me if im wrong. i know personally that i got serious rebound from 7-oxo-dhea
    Phosphatidylserine (PS) helps prevent the release of cortisol from the adrenals.

    Think of PS as having a nourishing action, rather than a pharmacological action. Its supportive of the bodyís natural processes, not suppressive. For instance, you donít need more and more to have the same effect. As you take PS, you can actually supplement with less and less once your ďPS storesĒ are full.

    Rebound is likely with something hormonal and suppressive like 7-keto DHEA.


    -Pp

  18. Im doin a Halodrol cycle, 75/75/100/100/100, my PCT is
    Nolva, 6OXO, Blue Up and Milk Thistle, any opinions?
    ---Im just curious about cortisol and all

  19. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    Im doin a Halodrol cycle, 75/75/100/100/100, my PCT is
    Nolva, 6OXO, Blue Up and Milk Thistle, any opinions?
    ---Im just curious about cortisol and all

    from what i've been reading, a cort regulatoris wise to maximize your gains. To me, i figure if you spend the time and money planning a cycle, have a kick ass PCT to keep all the gains you spent time researching for and working hard for .

    How far are you into your Halodrol cycle? I just started my third week and I'm tempted to bump it to 100. You using H-Drol or Hemadrol? If you're into your third week, you doing good as far as sides, gains etc?

  20. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    from what i've been reading, a cort regulatoris wise to maximize your gains. To me, i figure if you spend the time and money planning a cycle, have a kick ass PCT to keep all the gains you spent time researching for and working hard for .

    How far are you into your Halodrol cycle? I just started my third week and I'm tempted to bump it to 100. You using H-Drol or Hemadrol? If you're into your third week, you doing good as far as sides, gains etc?
    I just bumped it up to 100 last night. Im tryin to get a solid PCT so I keep all my gains. Here ya go...
    In the 3rd week of 5, using CEL Halodrol, no sides at all, a lil aggression, but libido is fine, I dont think I have shutdown but maybe. No hair loss, acne...but gains so far is ALOT of strength, about 8-10 pounds so hopefully these next 3 weeks will be good!:bb2:

  21. this primordial rep seems to really know his stuff and has a pro attitude as well.many of these other co.s dont even know what theyre selling and when you ask questions you get insulted when they dont know how to answer it.
    im definitely going to give endo a shot from this aspect alone.
    everything ive researched so far seems spot on.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by KgTomCat View Post
    Im doin a Halodrol cycle, 75/75/100/100/100, my PCT is
    Nolva, 6OXO, Blue Up and Milk Thistle, any opinions?
    ---Im just curious about cortisol and all
    I donít recommend 6-oxo for PCT. If it really is increasing natural testosterone production its doing so because its an anti-androgen, and this isnt going to help anything.

    -Pp

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Primordial Perf View Post
    I donít recommend 6-oxo for PCT. If it really is increasing natural testosterone production its doing so because its an anti-androgen, and this isnt going to help anything.

    -Pp
    im goin to add it in the 3rd week and taper down, (300/200/200/100)

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ropehead View Post
    this primordial rep seems to really know his stuff and has a pro attitude as well.many of these other co.s dont even know what theyre selling and when you ask questions you get insulted when they dont know how to answer it.
    im definitely going to give endo a shot from this aspect alone.
    everything ive researched so far seems spot on.

    x2.

    i agree. i was kinda already sold on endo, but a good rep. i agree

  25. so now that DS is closing...what's the replacement for Lean xtreme?

  26. Check out Primordial Performance EndoAmp

  27. we are going to need a new poll after the new LX 2.1 comes out.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by ndnguy85 View Post
    we are going to need a new poll after the new LX 2.1 comes out.

    True that. but this time add EndoAmp

  29. I began using endoamp in my third week of PCT. My boys came back real quick once I started it. Maybe that's because it's the third week of PCT, but I give at least partical credit to EndoAmp. I thought torem would take care of them, but to be honest, it didn't seem to do much (at least given the first two weeks)

  30. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    I began using endoamp in my third week of PCT. My boys came back real quick once I started it. Maybe that's because it's the third week of PCT, but I give at least partical credit to EndoAmp. I thought torem would take care of them, but to be honest, it didn't seem to do much (at least given the first two weeks)

    Nice. Glad to hear it worked out for ya.
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