51 day Oral Cycle, Gyno flare up

[Synicus]

Cycle = 7wks + 2 days, will end this Friday.

I did a sh#tty log:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/cycle-info/68424-ergo-max-havoc.html

Primarily compounds were:

Ergo Max LMG 30/40mg/Havoc 30/40mg/DHEA 150mg/Mega TRN 2-10mg.

I will be bumping the TRN to 10mg last 3 days of cycle for sh#ts and giggles/experimentation/solidification of strength gains.

Last day or 2 I've noticed pea-sized dense lump 1/4 inch above left nip. Very very slightly painful, if at all. Neither nips are sensitive, they sometimes "appear" puffy but this seems to be very relative to ambient room temperature, ie I take a swim they appear "tight," I'm hot they appear "puffy."

I want to finish out these last 3 days.

I've been taking support supps thru out, at first Cycle Support, when I ran out, all the components, RYR, Hawthorne, Policosinol, B-6..etc.

I have the following:

Gaspari Novedex XT
Cabergoline
Raloxifene
Bromokriptin
Nolva
Clomid
Toremefine
B-6

Projected Post Cycle Therapy was:

wk 1: Tor 120mg (gets the boys back very fast)
wk 2 : Nolva 40mg (cost reasons/over supply)
wk 3 : Nolva 30/20mg
wk 4: Nolva 20/10mg

No AI, Deisel Test, Trib Test, Maca, etc during Post Cycle Therapy.

I'm not overly concerned but would like to nip gyno onset in bud asap.

Considering I want to finish out these last 3 days, what would YOU do?

1. Novedex XT for 3 days?
2. Nolva for 3 days, switch to Tor, then back to Nolva?
3. Low dose Tor for 3 days then bump to 120mg?
4. Cabergoline, Raloxifene, Bromokriptin, prolactin induced from the TRN? What dose, and should I run it thru entire Post Cycle Therapy. I suspect the TRN causing the onset gyno.

5. Mega dose B-6, currently been doing 100-200mg B-6 ed.
6. Do nothing, finish 3 days, do projected Post Cycle Therapy and see if gyno reduces? But should I incorporate Cab, Raloxifine, Bromo in Post Cycle Therapy?

I'm not shut down hard.

Sorry for long post.

thx

 

[Jstrong20]

My guess would be the dhea/trn is causing the problem. Normally the trn probably wouldn't cause lumps becuase progestins can't without estrogen present. Or so they say. The dhea is probably conveting to estrogen and worsening the problems of high prolactin. Just a guess though. I personally never had problems on trn but have had prog related problems on max lmg. If it was me I'd take nolvadex for estro and either caber or bromo for the prog/prolactin. I definatley wouldn't go any higher with the b-6 since it can cause nerve damage. I have seen people go higher with it but I personally wouldn't risk it.

 

[Synicus]

^thx, your diagnosis seems accurate as to what's goin on.

Stopped DHEA.

I'll dose 40mg Nolva tonight.

I'll finish cycle tomorrow, want to get in 1 more wkout, so:

Havoc 30mg/Mega TRN 10mg

Post Cycle Therapy will be:

wk 1: Nolva 40mg, Cab 2.5mg x 2 per wk
wk 2: Nolva 40mg, Cab 2.5 x 2 per wk
wk 3: Nolve 20mg, Cab 2.5 x 2 per wk
wk 4: Nolva 20mg, Cab 2.5 x 2 per wk

I like Tor better than Nolva but got excess of Nolva, its cheaper, and I'm not shutdown bad. So Nolva....

I've never run Cab before don't know safety so if "lump" reduces/disappears after 2 wks may stop Cab after 2 wks, thought I read somewhere should be run for 2 wks only, can't remember where I read that.

I think I'll run B-6 @ 300mg per day, read somewhere its "relatively" safe up to 500mg day.

Plus the "auxilliaries", ie Diesel Test, Trib Test, Maca, etc.

thx

Best to nip the nip in the bud asap I think.

I'll update this for others as to progress of "lump" reduction, as is pea-size or smaller, no pain really....

 

[fritzer]

it is the DHEA. I had the same, DHEA has its place in older men and PCT otherwise i don;t like it and makes my nipples soft and juicy, almost sexual

 

[Synicus]

i don;t like it and makes my nipples soft and juicy, almost sexual

LOL

Yeah, I feel like biatch searchin for breast cancer. Not funny really, but I've never felt my tits so much in my life. WTF?

I am an older man, 40s, every time I've taken DHEA I end up hating it. It just makes me hairy. And now gives me tits. No more DHEA for me.... Sh#t, I think I have a yeast infection now too. :whiner:

I'm done w/ this cycle, 7 wks Ergo Max/Havoc/Mega TRN/DHEA.......too long. I'm actually lookin forward to Post Cycle Therapy.