You can order SERMS from research chemical sites, if you actually look, you will find them.
You sir are correct.
Bravo! :clap2:
HAAHAH! that wasnt aimed at you dude, it was for the others trying to jump on a bandwagon that actually don't know what they're talking about
LMFAO! Dude, I prefer the taco wagon down the street myself... I say we sit this one out, as we've both argued this point to death, and see if some fresh thoughts roll in, sound good?
Lol alright, it's totally obvious where I stand, although it is DEPENDANT on what cycle you're running and how long you ran it. :head:
NO YOU SHUT UP, I have more 'E-REP' from people that don't know me than you do! That makes me very intelligent and most of all, VERY CORRECT! lol ahhaahahyeah RA shut up already, he knows more..
his post count is higher.
LOL na dude I still wanna see if anybody says anything on their own without support from somebody with actual knowledge... It's hard to echo something that's not there ISNT IT!
only as long as you understand with every post I laugh at you more.
okay. i'm not quite the guy to get into an e-fight.
Im glad, I didn't have the heart to go much further than that. But seriously, I would like to see HPTA bounce back with blood work on cycle, post cycle therapy and aft cycle to 'prove' what you're saying. More examples of such the better.
there has been alot of threads about this latley so its not your fault that the arguements have come to your thread since you asked a similar question. this has been goin on for a while now, some seem to think you will be fine not using a serm and there are those of us that wouldn't cycle without a serm.
EARLY gyno (just to be specific) and also, I recommend Toremifine... the only other SERM that I would EVER suggest besides that is Ralox....
So anybody who thinks that SERM's are the place to start when planning a cycle is on PI's bandwagon and does not know what their talking about? I have no idea how you gained so much rep on this forum but it goes to show me that it's not as difficult as it used to be or should be. RA, I am bigger than you, stronger than you and healthier than you are. I have more experience and know more about the subject than you will ever know. I just don't go running my mouth every chance I get to embellish my post count. You like to spew forth your opinions like they are facts and I have never once seen anyone even remotely worth listening to take your side. You want to say I'm on the bandwagon and don't know what I am talking about? Lets have this discussion just you and I and well see if you can back up your empty claims.HAAHAH! that wasnt aimed at you dude, it was for the others trying to jump on a bandwagon that actually don't know what they're talking about
Ahem, please use the search function, look up the one where PI and I argued this out for 5 days, read it, you will know my stance and your own reitterated. Oooo you're bigger faster stronger, well my **** is long and my back is strong, and you're girls'a callin.
If that's what you're looking for, harassing people in this thread is not the best means of going about that.
Well since my girl is your mother and my son is your half brother you and VOODOO are much better off f***ing each other! ... Ohhhhhhh !! Alright I'm through.Ahem, please use the search function, look up the one where PI and I argued this out for 5 days, read it, you will know my stance and your own reitterated. Oooo you're bigger faster stronger, well my **** is long and my back is strong, and you're girls'a callin.
You bring up a good point. The attitudes everybody has coming into these discussions seem to be geared towards creating controversy and flared tempers than actually getting something accomplished.
I agree brother. Forgive my above childish post. My thing is that when people come on here asking specific questions about whether or not they need a SERM in their pct I feel strongly that they should use one. If it is a much milder cycle than run a lower dose of the SERM in your pct but don't just look for ways to justify not having to obtain one when it is not very difficult to do at all. My first cycle ever I did not run a SERM in my pct and based on my own experiences since than I feel they are extremely beneficial.
:toofunny: :toofunny:Oh, and I have more rep than anyone else in this thread, so everything I say is right
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I hope this discussion turns around. I have alot of learning when it comes to SERM's. I haven't used one in the past. Reason being with Halodrol/O-E Hemadrol/Prop I didn't have any shutdown and I wasn't worried about gyno. I had bloodwork done and everything was fine but when I do a stronger cycle after this pulse cycle I will be using one. Hopefully my Superdrol/Test-E cycle will come together.
Be Careful with superdrol, stuff gives me a nasty prolactin rebound. I highly recommend having an ass-load of vitamin B6 on hand, just in case of flare-up.
Thats what I hear, thanks for the heads up.
for what it's worth, criticizing the board members for using similar PCT protocols defeats a big part of the purpose of the board. the forum allows people to share user feedback for what has been effective for different members in some areas that are based largely around speculation/anecdotal feedback. there are some extremely experienced/intelligent people here, but no one knows it all. it may very well be possible for someone to run a cycle of certain compounds and recover properly without the use of any SERMs. however, i don't see why you would fault people for using the method that has more feedback, or why you would post here so often if you consider everyone so "adherent" and "parrot like"
My first cycle, when I was 18ish, was with Omnadren ... I think I ran it 8-10 weeks at approx 250mg E5D... I didn't use a post cycle therapy protocol.
I remember a difficult recovery. I lost quite a bit of size and my sex life suffered from lack of libido/performance. Remeber 18? That sh1t isn't right.
Suffice to say you don't NEED a serm to recover, but you can and SHOULD use one if you want to restore HPTA function quickly.
I'm sure everyone wants to recover quickly... so use tried and true PCT methodology with a SERM. I don't understand why one wouldn't.
Get some Toremifene.
Voodoo, PI is a part of the eastern faction of Snuggle Club. If you are laughing at him, it is because he is trying to make you happy.
When was I mean? I didn't mean to come off as mean for saying "way to hijack the thread, son". It was meant in jest, since majority of the threads I post in get hijacked (often with obscure homosexuality/beastiality topics).
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