No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT
- 08-19-2007, 08:12 PM
Freedom means nothing here.
- 08-20-2007, 06:17 PM
Sinner, how does I3C rank in ur PCT guide? Would one consider it close to a SERM since it channels estrogen? Maybe not nearly as effective as a SERM but maybe a little close to one?
08-20-2007, 07:43 PM
The stuff it does for Estrogen is kick ass; however, studies show it to be antiandrogenic and significantly lowers testosterone. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but as of current, there's not enough information to say how selective these anti-androgenic/testosterone lowering effects are. Due to this, the safest thing is to stick with what works.
08-20-2007, 07:46 PM
08-30-2007, 03:59 PM
Question for you sinner.
I was selected as a tester for Superdrol NG. Dr.D states that aPCT is all that's needed for PCT but I'm not comfortable with that. You think Nolva or Torem is overboard or better safe than sorry.
08-30-2007, 05:21 PM
08-30-2007, 05:58 PM
Keep in mind that it is something designed for GNC users (and I doubt they would know to use such a protocol).
Though I do not know the formulation, I'm forseeing this product to be something similar to BAM from ALRI, meaning that it may lead to slight suppression; however, it won't shut you down hard enough so that PCT would be a necessit (like with most other steroids).
Taking Nolvadex would 'screw up' the validity to the testing of this product. If you are truly concerned, I would at least make sure I had some on hand, and use if completely necessary.
This product has already been alpha-tested by some users who (I do not believe) used this post-cycle therapy protocol.
08-30-2007, 06:37 PM
08-30-2007, 08:06 PM
08-31-2007, 12:46 AM
08-31-2007, 01:16 AM
09-01-2007, 07:22 PM
09-13-2007, 04:07 AM
Any advice for a PCT after 4 weeks of Propadrol? I'm not real sure a progesterone is going to differ here...
09-14-2007, 05:54 AM
Primordial Performance uses resveratrol in Dermacrine and Dermacrine Sustain (good for PCT)
Freedom means nothing here.
10-10-2007, 05:29 AM
10-10-2007, 05:40 AM
10-10-2007, 06:02 AM
10-13-2007, 04:54 PM
newbie here to the site and was planning on starting anevol and was looking into a proper post cycle therapy cycle while searching through the site came across a prodoct from AI called POST CYCLE SUPPORT... now heres my question would i use this product to just replace a serum? or would this be good enough alone for a PCT? Planning on taking cycle support while on the cycle of anevol would i also take it during the PCT?
10-13-2007, 11:27 PM
a.) idk what anevol is.
b.) you should do alot more research. You need to understand everything about the mechanisms you are messing with by taking steroids\PH's so that you can adapt and react to your bodies changes and know how to diagnose things if they go wrong.
c.) the nature of the compound and other factors such as dosage, length of cycle, and personal reactions to the compound will determine your PCT requirements. If by saying "serum" you are meaning SERM then, i suggest you read up on it a little bit more. It is important to understand the chemicals that you will put into your body. Post cycle support should not be taken as a standalone PCT. It is "Support"
10-14-2007, 05:29 PM
10-14-2007, 08:11 PM
well Anevol is a combo of superdrol and Phera-Plex i believe (at work dont have all the info avail) but yeah i mean to serm instead of serum sorry...what my real question was can the post cycle support be used in place of a serm in a pct? and yes i have read the whole thread from the beginning
10-14-2007, 08:49 PM
that was the intent behind it's design; however, the amounts of steroids being used, duration of the cycle, and other factors can skew the effectiveness of this product.
10-14-2007, 11:27 PM
Well i plan on cycling anevol for 4weeks at 2 pills a day and adjusting it based on how i feel well on it
10-16-2007, 11:03 PM
So if you're saying that Jungle Warfare can be used as a part of PCT, then I assume if a person were to just take Jungle Warfare as a standalone, they would not need any pct for that. Is this true?
10-16-2007, 11:04 PM
10-17-2007, 12:16 AM
10-17-2007, 12:20 AM
11-01-2007, 11:24 PM
Do I need and REAL PCT program?
Ok I'm in a similar boat like ticktwo, another newbie finding the real information.
I'm just completing a 30 day cycle of Methyl E and I'm about to start arimEvol as the PCT (both suggestions from the local nutrition store here ).
Should I be taking the recommended PCT program in your initial post?
If not what should I be taking to make sure the equilibrium is getting back normal operating standards?
Thanks for helping us all out. I wish I'd found this forum a 2 months ago.
11-02-2007, 06:14 AM
11-02-2007, 06:28 AM
Run arimEvol should not be used in your pct... Good legal sub for a serm from what Im hearing is AI's Post Cycle Support, and throw some AX Advance PCT in there and u should be ok ...read the beginning of the thread to see what else u need.and if all else fails use the search function
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