No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT
- 07-07-2007, 10:51 PM
- 07-08-2007, 12:37 AM
07-08-2007, 12:45 AM
The way this question is coming across, it strikes me as though you have not fully read my first post.....might be a good idea to do so.
07-08-2007, 03:44 PM
07-08-2007, 04:46 PM
Hey Sinner, my sisters boyfriend's workout buddy told me to ask you what would make him huge like you??
07-08-2007, 06:44 PM
07-08-2007, 09:59 PM
07-10-2007, 11:00 AM
07-10-2007, 10:54 PM
07-10-2007, 11:16 PM
RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
07-11-2007, 07:02 AM
07-11-2007, 12:41 PM
ah, just wondering because the post you started this thread with is an article by jordan blackburn: http://ezinearticles.com/?Stupid-Peo...rapy&****607333 and i was gonna say i liked your other stuff.
07-11-2007, 01:30 PM
Damn! Just when I was impressed and about to try this rep thing.
So, secret identity or plagiarizer?
Inquiring minds want to know.
07-11-2007, 03:37 PM
07-11-2007, 04:22 PM
I'll PM him, and let him know somebody got their facts screwed up.
07-11-2007, 04:27 PM
07-11-2007, 05:05 PM
07-11-2007, 05:25 PM
When I said that it is not necessary, what I mean is that your body will eventually come back to natural hormone balance, but it will take a lot longer. This means that you have low test levels for a longer period of time, which is going to make it harder to maintain muscle gains.
07-17-2007, 06:25 PM
On that note do you have an idea of how long it would take to recover without using a SERM, because I'm pretty sure they weren't around back in the days of arnold and franco yet they stayed massive, so I always wondered how long it takes your body to get back to equilibrium norms
07-17-2007, 06:30 PM
07-17-2007, 10:54 PM
yea I thought about that, but when a person is shutdown from a dbol 6 weeker and another from a prop 12 weeker shouldn't it be somewhat the same, because both are producing the same amout of test, 0
07-18-2007, 05:42 AM
Another thing to point out is your mention of Arnold and Franco. Sure they never used PCT and were huge, but do we really know how they looked when they were "off cycle"? Seeing pictures of professional bodybuilders sets somewhat of a bias because there's pretty much only pics of them while in their prime. (Take a look at Lee Priest's off-season fatass for example)
07-18-2007, 01:28 PM
07-18-2007, 02:10 PM
Wow, now I know what it feels like to have a really good understanding of PCT, and how it works. Thanks
07-18-2007, 06:34 PM
07-18-2007, 06:51 PM
Okay a few questions on this:
1. If its a constant hormonal balance, what increases/decreases if you are using a cortisol reducer ON cycle? Estrogen? Test? Other hormones?
2. Is a cortisol reducer a bad idea ON cycle?
I'll start with those...
07-18-2007, 09:03 PM
07-18-2007, 09:07 PM
07-19-2007, 06:20 PM
So if you are taking an exogenous form of test does your body immediately stop producing it naturally? So your natural test level is actually zero? Or would you still be producing some form of natural test?
I assume this is dependent on the time, dosage, etc? This is basically your level of shutdown correct?
07-19-2007, 06:39 PM
Your natural test levels decrease as the exogeneous levels begin taking its place in various biochemical reactions. Then we factor in a fun word called "reaction rate" and yeah, it's not always instantaneous. Shutdown is dependent on compound, dosage, and time.
You're throwin' out some tough Q's there Travis. I'll try my best to answer them, just remember that I'm not the guy with ALL the answers.
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