No Excuses & No ***** ***: A Stupid People's Guide to PCT
- 07-13-2009, 01:42 PM
- 10-31-2009, 10:13 AM
Im thinking of starting to take H-Drol next month and from what I been told Novadex is what people use for the PCT. Can you advise on what you think is the best PCT with out a doctors prescription? Thank you.
11-01-2009, 11:21 PM
11-06-2009, 02:58 PM
Very good info, I will direct newbies to this post, it will answer a lot of there questions from the start.
12-02-2009, 07:50 PM
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12-02-2009, 08:15 PM
03-20-2010, 12:35 AM
05-11-2010, 07:27 PM
09-10-2010, 10:53 AM
would you need to take any serms or reduce xt on an oral dbol cycle. your posts sound like its not needed till after finishing the cycle..but other places ive looked say to take nolvadex and and reduce xt while on and off. can you clear this up for me please
09-10-2010, 11:12 AM
09-10-2010, 01:51 PM
09-10-2010, 07:40 PM
I don't think nolvadex would be of much help
An aromatase inhibitor like ATD (i.e. reduce xt) might be a viable, "more-legal" option (compared to the alternatives). Formestane might be another possible "more-legal" option as well.
09-11-2010, 12:25 AM
thank you. can you tell me what you think i should take while on and the pct. this is what the cycle looks like. oral 10mg dbol /6weeks. 10/20/30/30/30/30. i have on hand nolvadex ,reduce xt,inhibit e,and anabolic innov cycle support.
09-11-2010, 02:58 AM
09-11-2010, 10:26 AM
09-12-2010, 02:25 PM
01-14-2011, 03:12 PM
I have a question and it's not really Post cycle, it's more during and post cycle. Can I still take an NO product during the cycle and post cycle? I take NO2 and am I am getting ready to do a Havoc cycle 20/30/30/40/40.
01-14-2011, 03:16 PM
IMO, don't take it during cycle, though. Wait for PCT. That way you can continue getting huge pumps when you're done the anabolics.
01-15-2011, 01:40 PM
Generally speaking, most 'roids' increase Nitric oxide production. That's why Arnold used to compare the pump to cumming, with the copious amounts of primo he was taking at the time.
To answer your question, it is fine to take whatever nitric oxide product you are using.
In terms of dollars to benefits; however, I've never seen much purpose in taking a nitric oxide product regardless of being on cycle, off cycle, or on PCT.
01-19-2011, 05:09 AM
Im actually coming off a p-plex epi bridge. currently have nolva, triazole (AI + SERM), activate xtreme (t booster), and lean xtreme (cot blocker). should i take them all starting day 1 of pct? some people are saying to start the nolva and wait 2 wks to start the other supps.
nolva going 40/40/20/20
01-26-2011, 06:50 PM
Hello. I'm another H-drol noob, I have access to a bunch of 10mg nolva tabs but to be honest I'm interested in some OTC option. Perhaps in the 3-4 years since this thread was started, some reasonable OTC products have arrived? I don't know. There are certainly 100's or 1000's of logs online now where people have used OTC PCT. No bloodwork, though (then again I've not really seen bloodwork from anyone else, either).
01-26-2011, 09:02 PM
01-27-2011, 04:24 AM
The main thing I'm finding from my investigations so far is that essentially no two sources of information agree with each other completely (if at all!), and also many opinions are not all they seem to be. For example if someone claims they recovered great with some OTC product, they go ahead and promote OTC products and maybe are inclined to highlight the potential risks of SERMs. But who knows if they might have recovered faster/better with a SERM really? And they certainly never got bloodwork done.
Likewise for people who eat 40mg of nolva after some H-drol, again nothing terrible happens to them and they recover, so they go on to praise SERMs and criticise OTC products - but maybe the nolva wouldn't have been necessary.
It's like the loyalty people have to products and manufacturers, without any "real" reason, you know.
That's the trouble with any legally-dubious activity, isn't it. It's hard to ever consolidate data and produce some sort of consensus.
Not to mention that different **** works for different people...
In the end one has to just jump in and try it, I guess!
01-30-2011, 11:13 PM
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