Fareston = toremifene citrate.. if so, then..

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    Fareston = toremifene citrate.. if so, then..


    Research chem company i got it from says it is chemically identical to fareston, Toremifene citrate, so one would need to take more to see the same effects correct?

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    To see the same effects of Fareston? I don't understand. Fareston is the trade name for Toremifene. Why would more of one be needed to equal the effects of the other?
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    well, i was browsing around and realized that fareston is actually toremifene citrate, not just torm, so i'm a little confused by that.
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    i hope your research site sells toremifene citrate...that is the chemical you want...

    i'm not sure what just straight toremifene would be, but it's not what you want.
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    Ok, so the dosage protocol 120/90/60/30, out of a 60mg/ml vial of torm citrate would simply be 2ml/1.5ml/1ml/.5ml??
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    Exactly...
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    fantastic, thanks.
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    I was looking at my bottle of Toremifene and it says Toremifene not Toremifene Citrate. Should I assume its the Citrate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I was looking at my bottle of Toremifene and it says Toremifene not Toremifene Citrate. Should I assume its the Citrate?
    you know what is said about assumetions right? go back to the point of purchase and verify........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I was looking at my bottle of Toremifene and it says Toremifene not Toremifene Citrate. Should I assume its the Citrate?
    My bottle also says just toremifene, I believe we all got it from the same place if its 60/60ml and it was listed under serms and states chemically identical to fareston, the company is credited on many sites so I believe that its the same as toremifene citrate/fareston
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    You guys are killing me with this-

    Toremifene=Toremifene Citrate
    Tamoxifen=Tamoxifen Citrate

    There aren't different versions of these floating around at research chem places. They're just abbreviating the chemical name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    You guys are killing me with this-

    Toremifene=Toremifene Citrate
    Tamoxifen=Tamoxifen Citrate

    There aren't different versions of these floating around at research chem places. They're just abbreviating the chemical name.
    Thats what I thought, but I started second guessing myself
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    Quote Originally Posted by NAS View Post
    My bottle also says just toremifene, I believe we all got it from the same place if its 60/60ml and it was listed under serms and states chemically identical to fareston, the company is credited on many sites so I believe that its the same as toremifene citrate/fareston
    How is your guys working out? I haven't gotten much from mine so far and I think it from the same company.
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    Honestly i went with the "other" company and it works let me tell you. It also tastes great like a minty milk of magnesia or something. All of there Serms have good taste its not from I...
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    I havnt tried my torm yet, I mainly got it for a PP/SD cycle but after some reading I will also use it after the mass tabs cycle im on now just to be on the safe side
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    I just haven't gotten the massive revolumization a lot of people have reported, maybe I expected too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    I just haven't gotten the massive revolumization a lot of people have reported, maybe I expected too much.
    Is it working at all?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    Is it working at all?
    define "working" so far there is nothing going on that I can attribute to it and it alone. Acne is running rampant, but hormonal imbalances cause that in post cycle. I feel just like I did when I jump started and used fake gear. I've never not worked sexually, not matter what stupid things I've done and I continue to be fine in this regard. My nads seem to be a slight bit larger, but its not like I measure them so it could be wishful thinking. With all the hype surrounding torm, maybe I just expected too much?
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    Its been about 2 weeks and things are mostly back to normal down there, but i didnt suddenly experience massive revolumization like so many others reported. Noticed revolumization for sure, but def not in the time frame most others seemed to notice it.
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    what do you mean by "revolumization" ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotripped View Post
    what do you mean by "revolumization" ?
    nuts growing back
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    oh. clomid does that nicely.
    =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by gotripped View Post
    oh. clomid does that nicely.
    =]
    clomid has reports of making guys want to watch "the notebook" and then cry at the end. I feel like enough of a ***** on pct, I don't need to cry as well. I feel fat.
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    aspire, whatd you cycle look like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PumpingIron View Post
    aspire, whatd you cycle look like?
    I usually don't discuss this since my ideas are a little different than most but it was this:

    Tren Ace 37.5mg ED 1-7
    Test Prop 50mg ED 1-8
    HCG 250iu 2xEW 2-9
    Igf 40mcg Bilat PWO 3xEW 8-13
    Torm 120,90,60,30 lowering dose every 6 days (works out to half a bottle or 30ml) 10-13
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    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    You guys are killing me with this-

    Toremifene=Toremifene Citrate
    Tamoxifen=Tamoxifen Citrate

    There aren't different versions of these floating around at research chem places. They're just abbreviating the chemical name.
    actually there are different versions. tamoxifene and tamoxifene citrate are two different products, just like test base and test prop. likewise each product would be dosed differently due to the longer ester chain therefore 20mg of TAMOXIFENE is not the same as 20mg of TAMOXIFENE CITRATE. i do not know what exactly what type of toremifene is used in fareston or what the research labs are using im sure you can ask.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    clomid has reports of making guys want to watch "the notebook" and then cry at the end. I feel like enough of a ***** on post cycle therapy, I don't need to cry as well. I feel fat.
    you are fat now please indulge in the bon bons
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    i found out fareston is toremifene citrate. if the research labs are use just toremifene your getting a stronger product albiet a shorter half life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slow-mun View Post
    You guys are killing me with this-

    Toremifene=Toremifene Citrate
    Tamoxifen=Tamoxifen Citrate

    There aren't different versions of these floating around at research chem places. They're just abbreviating the chemical name.
    Conflicting information makes me confused...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMW View Post
    i found out fareston is toremifene citrate. if the research labs are use just toremifene your getting a stronger product albiet a shorter half life.
    i was thinking the same. the citrate is just added to the actual compound. it doesnt act like an ester but think of it like one just an addition to the actuall compound. I wasnt sure on this but after BMW said i feel more comfortable sayin this. I forget why they add the citrate tho'... I know my torem said just toremifene and it didnt have the citrate taste like ive experienced with tamoxifen citrate.
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