tom0788
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Research chem company i got it from says it is chemically identical to fareston, Toremifene citrate, so one would need to take more to see the same effects correct?
you know what is said about assumetions right? go back to the point of purchase and verify........:type:I was looking at my bottle of Toremifene and it says Toremifene not Toremifene Citrate. Should I assume its the Citrate?
My bottle also says just toremifene, I believe we all got it from the same place if its 60/60ml and it was listed under serms and states chemically identical to fareston, the company is credited on many sites so I believe that its the same as toremifene citrate/fareston:thumbsup:I was looking at my bottle of Toremifene and it says Toremifene not Toremifene Citrate. Should I assume its the Citrate?
Thats what I thought, but I started second guessing myselfYou guys are killing me with this-
Toremifene=Toremifene Citrate
Tamoxifen=Tamoxifen Citrate
There aren't different versions of these floating around at research chem places. They're just abbreviating the chemical name.
How is your guys working out? I haven't gotten much from mine so far and I think it from the same company.My bottle also says just toremifene, I believe we all got it from the same place if its 60/60ml and it was listed under serms and states chemically identical to fareston, the company is credited on many sites so I believe that its the same as toremifene citrate/fareston:thumbsup:
Is it working at all?I just haven't gotten the massive revolumization a lot of people have reported, maybe I expected too much.
define "working" so far there is nothing going on that I can attribute to it and it alone. Acne is running rampant, but hormonal imbalances cause that in post cycle. I feel just like I did when I jump started and used fake gear. I've never not worked sexually, not matter what stupid things I've done and I continue to be fine in this regard. My nads seem to be a slight bit larger, but its not like I measure them so it could be wishful thinking. With all the hype surrounding torm, maybe I just expected too much?Is it working at all?
nuts growing backwhat do you mean by "revolumization" ?
clomid has reports of making guys want to watch "the notebook" and then cry at the end. I feel like enough of a ***** on pct, I don't need to cry as well. I feel fat.oh. clomid does that nicely.
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I usually don't discuss this since my ideas are a little different than most but it was this:aspire, whatd you cycle look like?
actually there are different versions. tamoxifene and tamoxifene citrate are two different products, just like test base and test prop. likewise each product would be dosed differently due to the longer ester chain therefore 20mg of TAMOXIFENE is not the same as 20mg of TAMOXIFENE CITRATE. i do not know what exactly what type of toremifene is used in fareston or what the research labs are using im sure you can ask.You guys are killing me with this-
Toremifene=Toremifene Citrate
Tamoxifen=Tamoxifen Citrate
There aren't different versions of these floating around at research chem places. They're just abbreviating the chemical name.
you are fat now please indulge in the bon bonsclomid has reports of making guys want to watch "the notebook" and then cry at the end. I feel like enough of a ***** on post cycle therapy, I don't need to cry as well. I feel fat.
Conflicting information makes me confused... :think:You guys are killing me with this-
Toremifene=Toremifene Citrate
Tamoxifen=Tamoxifen Citrate
There aren't different versions of these floating around at research chem places. They're just abbreviating the chemical name.
i was thinking the same. the citrate is just added to the actual compound. it doesnt act like an ester but think of it like one just an addition to the actuall compound. I wasnt sure on this but after BMW said i feel more comfortable sayin this. I forget why they add the citrate tho'... I know my torem said just toremifene and it didnt have the citrate taste like ive experienced with tamoxifen citrate.i found out fareston is toremifene citrate. if the research labs are use just toremifene your getting a stronger product albiet a shorter half life.
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