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HELP, HELP Lactateing Now WTF!!!!!!

Distilled Water

Distilled Water

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Ok theres a kid at the gym whos lactateing from 3 months of non-stop LG Methyl 1-Alpha.....I was like wow thats ****ty and said to my friend and acted it out "how ****ty would that be to squeeze your nip and squirt squirt....WHAT THE F*CK" there was a clear discharge FROM MY NIPPLE!!!

Im 10 days into my P.C.T. Im doing
40mg Nolva
600mg B6
3gr Tribulus
NOW testojack
Retain

I dont know how long this has been happening because i dont ever squeeze my nipples. For all i know I have had this for 10 years or 10 days....Either way I WANT IT GONE.

I was thinking about throwing in some Cabergoline to P.C.T. to make it go AWAY......
 
Don't use such a high dose of B6 for too long... it will cause nerve damage. Once the discharge stops I would lower it to 200mg/day or less.

Cabergoline is probably a good idea, and keep up with the nolva. If it doesn't go away by the end of PCT you can try some letro. JM2C.
 
I'd just keep doing what you are doing, and I agree with TS on the B6 anything over 200mg ED can cause permanent nerve damage.

I have read a few studies claiming that Nolva will activate PgR in breast tissue, as a result switching to Raloxifene may be a wise decision. However, even with that being said the connection between Prog. and lactation is still highly misunderstood. At any rate, I would drop your B6 dose, try a milder AI such as mATD, and add in Letro starting at .5mg ED if sides do not subside

On a side note, it may be wise to heed the advice of others when they advise you to stay away from a hazardous compound such as M1T. This was one of the sides I was talking about.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I'd just keep doing what you are doing, and I agree with TS on the B6 anything over 200mg ED can cause permanent nerve damage.

On a side note, it may be wise to heed the advice of others when they advise you to stay away from a hazardous compound such as M1T. This was one of the sides I was talking about.
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F*ck u mullet.....lol jk man I knew i'd hear it.....The thing is i would have never known this if it wasnt for some other ignorant kid mis-useing ph's. Makes me wonder what would have happened.

What is a good dose of Cabergoline .5mg every 3 days and B6 @ 200mg....run it to P.C.T is over....then ill give the guys a squeeze and hope for the best.

I'll get one some 2day and see where it takes me. Thanks again guys and Mullet go ahead and rip into me 1 last time u and i desreve it....lol
 
No, no, I wasn't intending to condescend or patronize you. I got gyno myself from Superdrol, despite my precautions, so it can happen to the best of us. Merely pointing out why, in my opinion, you should have stayed away from M1T.

A question though. Did you know M1T was a progestin before hand?

Anyway, try that protocol, I had much success with it. One thing you should know as well, if you can catch the gland activity in its juvenile stage you should be able to diminish it completely. However, if it forms, prolonged Nolva treatment has been shown to be 41% effective in inducing a noticeable regression..


I'll find the link to that study if you want.
 
Mulletsoldier said:
No, no, I wasn't intending to condescend or patronize you. I got gyno myself from Superdrol, despite my precautions, so it can happen to the best of us. Merely pointing out why, in my opinion, you should have stayed away from M1T.

A question though. Did you know M1T was a progestin before hand?

Anyway, try that protocol, I had much success with it. One thing you should know as well, if you can catch the gland activity in its juvenile stage you should be able to diminish it completely. However, if it forms, prolonged Nolva treatment has been shown to be 41% effective in inducing a noticeable regression..


I'll find the link to that study if you want.
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Some one had said they thought it was a progesterin but there was never a final word. I wanted grab some B6 before the cycle just incase, but my store I work @ was out of stock so i said eff it (stupid).

I have pubertal gyno so i dont know if this changes nething. I got some Cabergoline comming and will start was soon as it gets here @ .05mg every 3 days.

Trust me I definatley respect your opinion and i am thankful your such a mature person. Thanks for the help
 
Since it's cheap and readily available, you may want to continue running the B6 at 200mg/day for 3-6 months after P.C.T.
 
TeamSavage said:
Since it's cheap and readily available, you may want to continue running the B6 at 200mg/day for 3-6 months after P.C.T.
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Really....I was thinking about running it @ 100-200mg for the rest of my life after this episode.

Im NEVER doing another progesterin cycle with out Cabergoline and B6
 
Distilled Water said:
Really....I was thinking about running it @ 100-200mg for the rest of my life after this episode.

Im NEVER doing another progesterin cycle with out Cabergoline and B6
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That works too. Probably not a bad idea. If you run it indefinitely, I think 100mg is definitely safer than 200mg.
 
I am not sure if you will need the B6 and the Caber is ridiculously strong. Watch yourself with that as well, I have heard reports of hallucinations of continued dosages over 250mcg (I believe).

Here is the link I was referring to, it is contained in a post made by Ubi.

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And yes, having pubertal gyno no doubt exacerbated the situation. You may want to stay away from anabolics in general, or if you decide to venture into that field again have a very sound protocol.

Also, know that gyno is almost the complete opposite of muscle; it comes quickly and takes awhile to leave. Be patient with your protocol, and know that Nolva/safe doses of B6 can be continued for nearly indefinite amounts of time.

Good luck Distilled.
 
I will drop the B6 to 100mg and run the Cabergoline. I read that link when seaching for was the help my situation. But i appreciate u finding it Mullet

One interesting thing i was looking at pics of my nipples to see if nething had changed and interesting enough my right nip (the good one) has seemed to become less puffy and harder more of the time.....while the left one (the discharge) has stayed the same maybe a little less puffy. I dont know if this matters but i figured id throw it out there.

I'm was planning on running an HMAX cycle this febuary along with Formestane for estrogen control and a bridge into P.C.T. but i think i may have put that on hold and just cut the old fashion way. If it clears up in the next 4-6 weeks do u think it would just be playing with fire if i tried to do this propossed cycle? If not I will go natural for atleast the next 2 years and I'll have to sell off my stash of PH's
 
Mulletsoldier said:
I am not sure if you will need the B6 and the Caber is ridiculously strong. Watch yourself with that as well, I have heard reports of hallucinations of continued dosages over 250mcg (I believe).
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Some people may consider that a good thing :twisted:
 
I just read thru the thread, sorry i didnt catch it earlier my friend. :] At least you dont have a horrible attitude about it! Well Mullet and TS have been given good help to you.

You say you are going to get bloodwork? Is this the result of telling a doctor?

I think when you hit your 20mg dose of nolva just keep it at 10 or 20mg for a few months just to be sure. Im thinking of running Ralox on cycle per the advice of ubi because of my pubertal gyno, but you read my log already. If it becomes an uncontrollable problem i see no reason not to go to a doctor for help, unless you have already.

Well bro, with all this I think i still might give m1t a shot again lol.
 
pistonpump said:
I just read thru the thread, sorry i didnt catch it earlier my friend. :] At least you dont have a horrible attitude about it! Well Mullet and TS have been given good help to you.

You say you are going to get bloodwork? Is this the result of telling a doctor?

I think when you hit your 20mg dose of nolva just keep it at 10 or 20mg for a few months just to be sure. Im thinking of running Ralox on cycle per the advice of ubi because of my pubertal gyno, but you read my log already. If it becomes an uncontrollable problem i see no reason not to go to a doctor for help, unless you have already.

Well bro, with all this I think i still might give m1t a shot again lol.
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No this was just from my planned bloodwork asfter the cylce i got it back 2day and posted all my reading in my log in the supp review/log section.

My prolactin levels were 12.0, normal range is 2.6-13.1...so I am normal but kinda high. I will start cabergoline today and run that for about 4 weeks that seems to be a safe length. Stating next week im @ 20mg next week. Should I do 10 am and 10 pm? I will run it for the remander of the cabergoline @ 20~10 mg.

Thank god i got buy one get one on it to save some cash.

I wonder if i have had this for a while and never knew it. I mean i dont go around trying to milk myself and who does. If its stil there by febuary paired with the bloodwork, My mom works for a doctor so him and I are close, i'll go to him. And tell him everything and see whats up. I dont forsee this happeneing i have a good feeling all will clear up.

Piston just take proper precaustions and u should be fine on the M1T......I mean not fine but better off than most lol
 
Distilled Water said:
If i ran HMAX in about 4 weeks would that just be asking for trouble or what??? I dont think HMAX is a progesterin but I dont know if i want to Yo-Yo my hormones this much
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honestly bro i would think getting your body back to homeostasis would be the best thing. Im sure after my 4 month cycle i will want to run another one (no doubt) but we have existing problems that need to be addressed first or it will just get even more aggitated IMO.

They said once you start cycling it wont be your last and you will always want to do a cycle. This is true i think but like anything we need to practice self restraint. I personally dont trust these orals anymore. I rather stick with old school AAS orals if i had to.
 
pistonpump said:
honestly bro i would think getting your body back to homeostasis would be the best thing. Im sure after my 4 month cycle i will want to run another one (no doubt) but we have existing problems that need to be addressed first or it will just get even more aggitated IMO.

They said once you start cycling it wont be your last and you will always want to do a cycle. This is true i think but like anything we need to practice self restraint. I personally dont trust these orals anymore. I rather stick with old school anabolic steroids orals if i had to.
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Yea i decided to run the TRI-Lean SYSTEM i found it @ a deal $75+ 1 bottle Thyrogen-X....Ill finish out my 9 week cut with DCP. Lookin to lose about 3~4%BF and only 10lbs. Im going to keep cals kinda high 3,800 and lower it by about 200 every 2 weeks. I read u need alot of cals on the system. Cardio 5 days a week in the AM for 30~45 minutes on Tredmil @ 10 and 3. I think this is a better choice. Im staying away from test boosters too. Only ANAGEN i decided to even drop the FENOTEST. Take a look at my cut ideas....Invalid Link Removed
 
distilled did this problem clear up? i just had the exact same thing happen to me. i've got a full physical lined up this wednesday so it couldn't have happened at a better time. only bad thing is, i was scheduled to start prop and tren in two weeks time (damn it). i guess that will have to be pushed back. give me an update if you can! also, did you request the hormone panels or did they include those in your bloodwork??
 
Distilled Water said:
I had to request them. My prolactin levels were at the very top of the high range. Also yes it cleared up in about 2 weeks. I ran it for 6 weeks just to be saf and taperd down the doses.
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no rebound after you got off the caber or have you been too afraid to check? i don't think i'll squeeze either of my nips EVER again hahaha. also, did you figure out what caused it? i have no idea what this could have been. i have run superdrol, dbol, havoc, and test all within the past year and a half so i have absolutely no clue what the culprit was. makes me rethink all of my post cycles i've run.
 
sfearl1 said:
no rebound after you got off the caber or have you been too afraid to check? i don't think i'll squeeze either of my nips EVER again hahaha. also, did you figure out what caused it? i have no idea what this could have been. i have run superdrol, dbol, havoc, and test all within the past year and a half so i have absolutely no clue what the culprit was. makes me rethink all of my post cycles i've run.
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Mine was M1T, I also had a mild case after superdrol. I'd bet thats the culprit.

I had no rebound, I went about 10days with no squeezing then I tried and there was slight discharge. Then another 10 and it was gone etc...

Now I just check every now and again theres nothing. Caber is some potent ish brosif. I also did 300-600mg B6/day. I'd look into the p5p, I think it is. It's suppose to me "safer" form of B6 and it's cheap.
 
Also if your doc is like mine, he gives you the sheet to take to the lab and you can just check the boxes. You can usually get away with one extra box, maybe even 2 but 3 doesn't fly. I had a nice conversation with my doctor and insurance company......

Apparently a man my age doesnt need his free test, total test, prolactin, and estrodial levels check'd :lol:
 
B-6 toxicity is rare and you must take large doses over a long period of time before you will start to get any symptoms such as numbness or tingling in the extremities. If you start to feel these symptoms simply lower the dose. Nerve damage from B-6 toxicity is reversible.

OTOH, Caber is toxic and will mess you up permanently. Given the two choices I would stick with the b-6...

You only need to use it until the sides subside which should happen within ten days to two weeks.

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I ran b-6 at 600-800mg for about 2 weeks and experienced tingling in my hands and feet... for about 3 months afterwards i had sensitivity issues in my toes, nothing severe, but be careful with megadosing b-6

As for the lactating, caber has cleared it up for me when it's severe... other times it goes away on its own

Heavy alcohol consumption has sparked it for me, certain test boosters have caused it, prohormones, ect...

Best bet is to take some time off and let your body reset, or just prepare to deal with the side effects
 
Movin_weight said:
I ran b-6 at 600-800mg for about 2 weeks and experienced tingling in my hands and feet... for about 3 months afterwards i had sensitivity issues in my toes, nothing severe, but be careful with megadosing b-6

As for the lactating, caber has cleared it up for me when it's severe... other times it goes away on its own

Heavy alcohol consumption has sparked it for me, certain test boosters have caused it, prohormones, ect...

Best bet is to take some time off and let your body reset, or just prepare to deal with the side effects
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this is all great info guys. i've got my full physical in about two hours. i'm gonna feel my doctor out and see if she (yea a she) might work with me and understand my aas use. if it seems like it might be ok to tell her i'm gonna go ahead and see what i can get, as far as tests (and maybe scripts :cheers:). if not, i'm gonna pick up some p5p and order some caber when i get home.

i'll keep you guys updated
 
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