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    I can't recover :(


    ok guys, i'm done with 4 weeks of my pct of my prop/ tren/m1t cycle... i'm on week 5 of this post cycle therapy plan but now i'm without the ZMA, alpha drive, restore, and anagen cuz they were only 4 week supplys....

    i am dosing the cabergoline appropriately sun and wed but today and all of yesterday, my right nut is sucked up ???? i have no idea y this is and i am very frustrated with this...

    it seems to me that the only time my nuts suck up or i have no libido is when my prostate is swelled... WHY it is swelled, i have absolutely no freakin clue... but i know or atleast i'm pretty sure that i know its swelled because when i piss, its weak and i drip when i shake it, pissing on myself usually

    like i said very very disappointed in this...

    i can't understand this either cuz i haven't lost a single pound of weight...

    PLZ PLZ PLZ if anyone can shed some light on my problem i'd be greatful!!!!!!!

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    my pct was:

    torimefene 120, 90, 60, 60, 30, 30
    clomid (started at week 2 cuz i didn't think i needed it at first) 150, 100, 75, 50
    igf lr3 @ 40mcg's post workout 5x/week
    alpha drive
    restore
    zma
    anagen
    powerfull
    cycle support and other on cycle ancillaries....

    i just recently added cabergoline to the pct in week 3 because i thought that prolactin was keepin me surpressed...

    i just ordered long jack, and maca and some prostate support... i dunno what to do, my fats are high and my diet is clean but tons of cals... i just can't recover
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    Try some feneugreek (sp?). Thats been known to help people with getting their nuts to get back to normal.
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    Add some Bulk Muira Puama or from Nutra Planet.This will put the size back in the packege fo sho!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry
    Add some Bulk Muira Puama or from Nutra Planet.This will put the size back in the packege fo sho!!
    i got some bulk powerfull... it sure does make my libido go up, but the right ball just seems to be up higher than usual... and it kinda hurts sometimes... i dunno... i'll try the fenugreek with my maca and long jack... should do sumn...

    but if i'm feeling horny again and i can get it up does this mean i'm recovered or is the nuts being full what ya go by to gauge if your recovered or not?
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    DHEA, Activate and a mild AI such as 6OXO
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    Recovery is best measured in blood work and not in a single sex drive type of feeling. I'd be more worried about the prostate swelling.
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    That's a pretty solid PCT. I know when I've run similar PCTs that I have had absolutely no libido and teste size kinda lingers around "halfway" recovered.

    I have no proof, but I think it may be a function of both binding up all the estrogen receptors and driving estrogen levels into the ground. A week or so after discontinuing this style of PCT normally brings back both my libido and teste size to near 90% and things recover quickly from there.

    Just my experience that has little backing in the science or even logic, lol.

    DHEA will help a lot.
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    Logic? That' **** has no place in reality. Spock was a mother****ing TV show!


    Seriously though, Bio makes a good point.
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    When did you cessate the Tren in relation to the Test? Also, running two extremely powerful and suppressive compounds like M1T and Tren in the same cycle, especially during such a short period, is setting your body and particular the HPTA up for alot of duress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by freakboy
    i got some bulk powerfull... it sure does make my libido go up, but the right ball just seems to be up higher than usual... and it kinda hurts sometimes... i dunno... i'll try the fenugreek with my maca and long jack... should do sumn...

    but if i'm feeling horny again and i can get it up does this mean i'm recovered or is the nuts being full what ya go by to gauge if your recovered or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    When did you cessate the Tren in relation to the Test? Also, running two extremely powerful and suppressive compounds like M1T and Tren in the same cycle, especially during such a short period, is setting your body and particular the HPTA up for alot of duress.
    I always reccomend HCG for Tren recovery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bioman
    That's a pretty solid post cycle therapy. I know when I've run similar PCTs that I have had absolutely no libido and teste size kinda lingers around "halfway" recovered.

    I have no proof, but I think it may be a function of both binding up all the estrogen receptors and driving estrogen levels into the ground. A week or so after discontinuing this style of PCT normally brings back both my libido and teste size to near 90% and things recover quickly from there.

    Just my experience that has little backing in the science or even logic, lol.

    DHEA will help a lot.

    Being estrogen sensitive....I couldn't agree more.....I've experienced the exact same thing...that's why I also mentioned DHEA.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordeen
    Being estrogen sensitive....I couldn't agree more.....I've experienced the exact same thing...that's why I also mentioned DHEA.
    well, i have some DHEA, what should i dose it at and for how long?

    Thanks guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
    When did you cessate the Tren in relation to the Test? Also, running two extremely powerful and suppressive compounds like M1T and Tren in the same cycle, especially during such a short period, is setting your body and particular the HPTA up for alot of duress.
    i only stopped the tren a week before the test... that was a mistake on my part i know... atleast i'll never do that again.
    as soon as i know what you guys think the best dose is for the dhea i'll throw it in... keep in mind i'm on week 5 of PCT and i thought dhea was only good in the first few days of the start of pct to bring back natty test production... but of course i'm probly not correct lol....

    Thanks alot guys for all the help
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    Check out this thread and the references others have made towards Dr.D's DHEA protocol while on and during post cycle therapy. May give you an idea.

    Superdrol/Phera Plex proposed cycle
  

  
 

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