Substitute for Nolva

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I'm looking for a substitute for Nolva, I've gotten Flu like sysmptons both times I've used Nolva, and so I wasn't able to keep my gains.

I know I need a SERM, but I'm not sure what is effective.

What should I go with next time around?
 

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Ralox and Torme are two other options.
 

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are you sure it was the nolva? were you on an AI as well during that time? i know ive cought a flu in week 3 of both post cycle therapy's ive been on, but i think it was from the high dose of rxt i had been on for so long.

without a doubt, toremifene is the best option. i would opt for that over nolva. i plan on using it in my next pct.
 

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The first cycle I used ATD 25,50,50,25 (I didn't want to build up to 75-100)

Second time no ATD till after I got sick and got off the Nolva (which my symptoms cleared in about 2 days after I stopped the Nolva).

I think I'll look into torme and relox
 
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without a doubt, toremifene is the best option. i would opt for that over nolva. i plan on using it in my next post cycle therapy.
Have you ever used Toremifene? If so could you please share your experience? If you never used it how can you say that without a doubt TOR is the best option?
Just trying to understand.
 
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There are OTC AI's but not SERMs.

AKA

Novedex XT
Ultra Hotter (Pretty much no one mentions this anymore)
T-Drive
Restore (New Product does alot other than just AI)
Rebound Reloaded
Inhibit E
Formadrol Extreme
6-Oxo (Androstenetrione)
WEEE!
There are a bunch of others. Alot of 'em.
 

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There are OTC AI's but not SERMs.

AKA

Novedex XT
Ultra Hotter (Pretty much no one mentions this anymore)
T-Drive
Restore (New Product does alot other than just AI)
Rebound Reloaded
Inhibit E
Formadrol Extreme
6-Oxo (Androstenetrione)
WEEE!
There are a bunch of others. Alot of 'em.
Yea thats what i thought but wasnt sure, i know there have been alot of new anti-e's comming out lately since the PH ban of 05'.
 
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Yea thats what i thought but wasnt sure, i know there have been alot of new anti-e's comming out lately since the PH ban of 05'.
You mean the PH Ban of 04.
AKA Steroid Control Ban Act of 2004. That took effect January 11, 2005.

Right?
 

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You mean the PH Ban of 04.
AKA Steroid Control Ban Act of 2004. That took effect January 11, 2005.
yea, and a little longer in some places. This place near where i was going to school had a sale going on called.....buy a $50 protein bar and get an extreme "Muscle Builer" lol
 
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yea, and a little longer in some places. This place near where i was going to school had a sale going on called.....buy a $50 protein bar and get an extreme "Muscle Builer" lol
LOL!

I remember in the local stores they had big signs posted "M1t and Andro being pulled off the shelves buy it before it's gone January 11!"
 
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Theres a bottle of Masterdrol at my local store for literally $80.:dump:
 
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Theres a bottle of Masterdrol at my local store for literally $80.:dump:
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Yeah they generally can get away with marking it up that high as many don't think they can get such products online for a cheap price.

Sofa King We Todd Id
 

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About how much would a normal pct with nolva/clomid run $$$$ wise??? I have never used it pct and am looking to if its feesable
 
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About how much would a normal post cycle therapy with nolva/clomid run $$$$ wise??? I have never used it post cycle therapy and am looking to if its feesable
Under $100, sometimes under $80 depending.
 

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