New findings in PCT
- 11-04-2005, 02:33 PM
New findings in PCT
Just in case some of you guys don't regularly read CEM, Big Cat has posted some interesting finds on new theories behind PCT protocols. Some of it is based off of Nandi's contributions.
And some comments about ATD I found interesting:
thought you may enjoy
- 11-04-2005, 04:05 PM
So ATD is worthless and actually makes you worse off than Nolva alone? And Ultra Hotter is actually a steroid like DBol?
Didnt some guy Max32 on this board use Ultra Hotter and get good results?
- 11-04-2005, 04:09 PM
haven't tried hotter but i can attest to rebound with lean extreme. worked great for me after a test/tren cycle. and once PCT was over, i didn't lose anything. no bloodwork to back recovering though.
11-04-2005, 04:16 PM
11-04-2005, 04:28 PM
just ran an atd pct and had the best pct ever. why do your nuts get so big on ATD. steriods shrink them.
11-04-2005, 05:09 PM
My nolva/UHer PCT went pretty well but I did lose about 7 of the 20 pounds I gained. Not too bad really. Teste size really did come back fast with this combo but libido went bye bye.
Big Cat tends to over emphasize a research finding..yes those negative things probably are occuring but there's no data to show exactly how far reaching they are in the real world. One should not state with an aire of total certainty about such matters based on in vitro work or very limited in vivo studies.
User results from ATD seem far more beneficial than detrimental thus far, IMO.
11-04-2005, 07:28 PM
Yeah I have no opinion either way really. Just thought it was interesting, and I agree I have heard alot of user feedback saying its the best thing since sliced bread.
The findings in controlling glucocorticoids is what I found interesting, and it seems that arginine may be the best way to go. Although it has been stated that 7-oxo also can help control glucocorticoid levels.
Really trying to keep everything science based and cover all aspects of PCT without any interference really is impossible, but what the hell is a good read.
11-04-2005, 09:11 PM
Ever since I read Cat say that Superdrol didn't lend itself to big gains (or whatver), I've been reticent to fully agree with everything he says.
Bottom line (drawing from his SD user's guide on BB.com) - take what he says with a grain of salt.
11-06-2005, 11:23 PM
Exactly, especially after his latest thread (more like attack) that included bashing some of our sponsors' products without any real research/justification. Twin Peak set him straight on some of DS' products, but I don't recall BC apologizing...Originally Posted by jmh80
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