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FINAFLEX PCT AFTER 12 WK RUN

  1.  01-20-2013  07:07 PM
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    FINAFLEX PCT AFTER 12 WK RUN


    PCT Day 1: Cardio/Core
    Weight 199.5
    - 7 min backward treadmill walk
    - 10min HIIT (0:30 sprint 0:30 walk) on elliptical
    - AB CIRCUIT
    1- weighted crunch- 20@30, 14@30, 10@30
    2- cable chop- 10@40, 10@40, 10@40
    3- hanging knee raise- 10, 10, 10
    - 8 min HIIT (1:00 fast 1:00 slow) on stairmaster
    - CORE CIRCUIT
    1- Plank- 1:00x3
    2- L Plank- 0:30x3
    3- R Plank- 0:30x3

    This is day one of PCT. Took my liquid tamox this morning at 40mg. Holy hell that shyt tastes terrible. The first dropper I was like, oh not so bad kinda like black liquorice, then the second dropper I was like, fuk me this tastes like gasoline! Left a bad taste in my mouth for a few hours. Then I took my 10mg osta and 3g Pure Test. Took half a pro xanthine around 2pm cuz I had the Sunday sluggishness. That gave me a good buzz and carried me thru my cardio/core day which I finished at 5:30pm.

    So far so good!
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    Here's the plan--->

    WK 1-5: 3x wk 50mcg IGFLR3
    WK 1-4/5: nolva 40/40/20/20/10?
    WK 1-4: 10mg osta ed
    WK 1-5+: 3g DAA ed
    WK 3-8: PCT REV 3/3/2/1/1eod/1e3d
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    That should keep you pretty good but if your libido is not rising noticeably by week 2 then drop to 5mg on the osta. That will still be enough to keep your muscle but low enough not to hinder recovery.
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    Originally Posted by MrKleen73 View Post
    That should keep you pretty good but if your libido is not rising noticeably by week 2 then drop to 5mg on the osta. That will still be enough to keep your muscle but low enough not to hinder recovery.
    12.5mg seemed to be the threshold where recovery limiting shutdown started occurring if I remember correctly. Thanks for the advice. I'm skipping the clomid kicker as well, thought it was overkill coming off a mild compound like 550
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    Osta should be low enough but like Chris says watch it.
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    subbed.....

    I just got my ostanish in. Started today, as a bridge in between cycles.

    Good luck with your pct bro. Looks good, interesting to see what the ostarine does for you in pct.
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    Originally Posted by edje007 View Post
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    I just got my ostanish in. Started today, as a bridge in between cycles.

    Good luck with your pct bro. Looks good, interesting to see what the ostarine does for you in pct.
    Watch that too you may need a mild PCT for this.
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    Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Watch that too you may need a mild PCT for this.
    have a bottle of revolution pct left thanks to you guys.....worst case , some nolva.
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    checking in

    only one thing to add to this point:
    nolva not best for pct, clomid preferred hands down - IF you feel the need to go above otc pct like PCT Black in the first place
    (your sourcing however will prolly have this tasting the same as your nolva lol)
    maybe run clomid after your osta, my .02
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    Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
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    only one thing to add to this point:
    nolva not best for pct, clomid preferred hands down - IF you feel the need to go above otc pct like PCT Black in the first place
    (your sourcing however will prolly have this tasting the same as your nolva lol)
    maybe run clomid after your osta, my .02
    Yah clomid should have you boucing back quickly but a serm should not be needed but you just never know. I am well supplied in the clomid department but will keep at 50 ed if I can. Don't want to go all Emo on you fuggers
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    Originally Posted by snagencyV2.0 View Post
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    only one thing to add to this point:
    nolva not best for pct, clomid preferred hands down - IF you feel the need to go above otc pct like PCT Black in the first place
    (your sourcing however will prolly have this tasting the same as your nolva lol)
    maybe run clomid after your osta, my .02
    Why exactly with the clomid rather than nolva? I read clomid is better at kick starting hpta recovery than nolva but only for the first week or so. I also read that vision sides are permanent with clomid and id rather steer clear of that. 19nors are supposed to respond better to clomid as well due to progesterone? issues but nolva is great at reducing gyno. 550 according to finaflex has been formulated to work its way around the common issues regarding pct of 19nors through its two step conversion and its higher purity and thus higher affinity for oral catalyzation. So nolva shouldn't be a problem here?
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    Why exactly with the clomid rather than nolva? I read clomid is better at kick starting hpta recovery than nolva but only for the first week or so. I also read that vision sides are permanent with clomid and id rather steer clear of that. 19nors are supposed to respond better to clomid as well due to progesterone? issues but nolva is great at reducing gyno. 550 according to finaflex has been formulated to work its way around the common issues regarding pct of 19nors through its two step conversion and its higher purity and thus higher affinity for oral catalyzation. So nolva shouldn't be a problem here?
    Yah not many of us older guys ever have gyno issues and HPTA is the important thing iif you want to keep gains and recover faster. I like Tor too.
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    Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Yah not many of us older guys ever have gyno issues and HPTA is the important thing iif you want to keep gains and recover faster. I like Tor too.
    So should I be concerned and pick up some clomid or will the setup I have be ok? Y'all got me questioning myself now, which is never good
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    I like my coffee black and my serms straightforward god dammit

    I'm going with torem next time
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    So should I be concerned and pick up some clomid or will the setup I have be ok? Y'all got me questioning myself now, which is never good
    Nolva is probably ok but next time you might want to try clomid. If gyno is an issue maybe stick with nolva. I have not heard of gyno problems with these particular products though.
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    Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Nolva is probably ok but next time you might want to try clomid. If gyno is an issue maybe stick with nolva. I have not heard of gyno problems with these particular products though.
    Thank you good sir for your timely response
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    Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post

    Nolva is probably ok but next time you might want to try clomid. If gyno is an issue maybe stick with nolva. I have not heard of gyno problems with these particular products though.
    Thank you good sir for your timely response. I gotta say, FinaFlex reps are the best reps I've seen on AM. Rather than just shamelessly marketing a product for the sake of marketing a product y'all answer questions objectively and more often than not definitively
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    I like my coffee black and my serms straightforward god dammit

    I'm going with torem next time
    Haha.
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    Originally Posted by ShockTroop View Post

    Haha.
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    Originally Posted by PalmFist View Post
    I read clomid is better at kick starting hpta recovery than nolva but only for the first week or so.
    is what clomid does - and what you want pct for to begin with

    I also read that vision sides are permanent with clomid and id rather steer clear of that.
    no
    proper dosing, should not have an issue
    plus, you can use clomid for shorter time period, say 3 weeks

    but nolva is great at reducing gyno.
    and that's about it
    also - can use other things too for gyno..i love exemestane for example

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