[stuey99]

Hey fellas. Just finished 15 week cycle of 750 mg test cyp per week and 200 mg deca for first 8 weeks (my source couldnt get hold of anymore)

I am 34, and this is my 3rd cycle after having an 18 months break.

Used 0.5 mg adex e3d from 3rd week as had gyno problems. Sex drive was up and down for rest of cycle as had trouble getting adex dose right.

I'm now 2 weeks into pct (clomid 100/100/50/50 and nolva 40/40/20/20) and my sex drive has TOTALLY disappeared!! Never had this before and startimg to panic a bit...

Should I still be on adex?? Maybe my estrogen levels are too high??
Waited 2 weeks before starting pct - was this long enough after 750mg test cycle??

Any help would really be appreciated.

[stuey99]

Would be grateful for any advice. Never had estrogen issues in the past so never used an ai on cycle before. Also never had such a crash in sex drive at end of cycle.

[DangerDave]

You could be having a prolactin problem. Get Caber or Parami. Adex can't be used with nolva instead exemestane should be used.

If you crush estrogen too low you will have libido issues just as if it was too high. So be careful

[stuey99]

Thanks for the reply mate!! The reason I havent thought about prolactin issues is that I only ran a small amount of deca and my last shot was 2 months ago. Do you think I could still have high prolactin...and if so should I be using nolva?? This was my first deca cycle so never really had to think about this in the past.
If I cant get caber or prami will these prolactin problems resolve themselves after pct??

[DangerDave]

Thanks for the reply mate!! The reason I havent thought about prolactin issues is that I only ran a small amount of deca and my last shot was 2 months ago. Do you think I could still have high prolactin...and if so should I be using nolva?? This was my first deca cycle so never really had to think about this in the past.
If I cant get caber or prami will these prolactin problems resolve themselves after pct??

It could be effecting you, it is hard to tell without bloodtests. I would get it regardless and run it.

As for nolva the compounds are in you from deca just not active. So you are good with nolva BUT if Deca elevated prolactin during the cycle then discontinuing it won't necessarily mean prolactin will decrease.

[stuey99]

Ok Dave I'll see if I can get some caber. I've heard vit b6 can lower prolactin or is that just a myth? Cheers for your help...not having an erection for 5 days has got me kinda freaked out mate!!

[DangerDave]

Ok Dave I'll see if I can get some caber. I've heard vit b6 can lower prolactin or is that just a myth? Cheers for your help...not having an erection for 5 days has got me kinda freaked out mate!!

Yes it can help but caber will fix it in just a few doses. I know what you mean man.... cialis or viagra is always onhand for me when I cycle because you just never know what could happen.

[stuey99]

It's a nightmare mate haha!! Just want to get it sorted before the mrs finds out else my days of juicing are OVER!! Got some viagra in the drawer so shouldnt be a problem...

[stuey99]

And if I cant get caber then prolactin should level out after pct right??

[DangerDave]

Run it through pct until its gone or a week or 2 after pct. Use Caber at .5mg E3d and that will do the trick. Prolactin inhibitors like caber don't cause rebound so no need to taper. Make sure to run it with low dose AI in pct.

Studies show that prolactin issues were related to high estrogen BUT after you have the problem lowering estrogen doesn't fix the prolactin problem. You need a prolactin inhibitor to do that.

[stuey99]

Ok great advice, cheers!! I ran adex throughout my cycle so do I still need to run an ai for pct? Problem I've got now is that I've got adex left but cant run that with nolva and cant get hold of any other ai's. Should I leave the ai out of pct or I could drop the nolva and start running adex with the clomid??

[DangerDave]

Ok great advice, cheers!! I ran adex throughout my cycle so do I still need to run an ai for pct? Problem I've got now is that I've got adex left but cant run that with nolva and cant get hold of any other ai's. Should I leave the ai out of pct or I could drop the nolva and start running adex??

Get an over the counter AI that also boosts test levels for PCT. That's what I do and I personally have used Formasurge and Erase Pro. I like them both but they are different and don't compare but gave the same results. Just make sure to get a suicide inhibiting AI and run it past the SERMS to prevent a rebound.

I wouldn't worry about running adex in pct. Just OTC AI and clomid, nolva, and caber.

[stuey99]

Thanks for the help Dave, I'll let you know how it goes

[DangerDave]

Thanks for the help Dave, I'll let you know how it goes

Ok man no worries and good luck. You will be back to laying wood in no time lol

[stuey99]

Is that PES Erase??

[DangerDave]

Is that PES Erase??

Yes but Erase Pro. Nutraplanet has Pes Erase/BPS endosurge stack on sale that is a killer deal for pct.

[stuey99]

Just ordeded some from predator nutrition in the uk. Thanks again for your help!!

[DangerDave]

Just ordeded some from predator nutrition in the uk. Thanks again for your help!!

No worries man. Good luck

[stuey99]

Erase pro getting delivered tomorrow mate and hopefully getting caber as well. Balls still tiny tho after 3 weeks clomid and nolva. Starting to think the problem is I'm still totally shutdown as didn't use hcg-stupid I know!! Thinking if still have problems after pct finished then way to go would be a proper hcg blast then clomid again...any thoughts bro??

[DangerDave]

Erase pro getting delivered tomorrow mate and hopefully getting caber as well. Balls still tiny tho after 3 weeks clomid and nolva. Starting to think the problem is I'm still totally shutdown as didn't use hcg-stupid I know!! Thinking if still have problems after pct finished then way to go would be a proper hcg blast then clomid again...any thoughts bro??

The only reason clomid and nolva wouldnt bring your balls back after 4 weeks would be because they are bunk. Go get a blood test if you can and check your levels.

[stuey99]

They're definitely not bunk mate. Only on day 18 of pct so I'm prob worrying too early...just never been so shutdown before!!

[DangerDave]

They're definitely not bunk mate. Only on day 18 of pct so I'm prob worrying too early...just never been so shutdown before!!

Yeah don't sweat it man. It will come back. Its too late for hcg just use Erase and bring in caber. You will be good.

[stuey99]

Ok buddy cheers for all the advice...just miss my sex drive haha!!