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What are the negative side of a SERM such as Nolva or Clomid? Do you think a SERM is necessary when taking a prohormone such as Hroid? Would I be alright with just a PCT like Inhibit-E and some milk thistle?
SERMs are toxic to the liver. They are drugs to treat breast cancer in pre-and post menopausal women. A lot of people take them blindly without thinking of the side effects or toxicity. A lot of forum members just blindly play follow the leader.What are the negative side of a SERM such as Nolva or Clomid? Do you think a SERM is necessary when taking a prohormone such as Hroid? Would I be alright with just a PCT like Inhibit-E and some milk thistle?
Side effect of Clomid: Obnoxiously large quantities of semen. Hope you like crusty towels!What are the negative side of a SERM such as Nolva or Clomid? Do you think a SERM is necessary when taking a prohormone such as Hroid? Would I be alright with just a PCT like Inhibit-E and some milk thistle?
H-drol, h-roof, p-mag are really mild weak hormones. OTC is fine.
I used isa-test gf, formadrol etreme, DAA pure, and lean xtreme after a 32 day cycle of pmag. better to do the full 6 weeks to get the best results. this otc pct worked well for mewhat do you think about the best otc combination then ? i checked lots of topics and so many different opinions. Help me out guys
this^^^ plus it turns most guys into emotional whiny bitchesSide effect of Clomid: Obnoxiously large quantities of semen. Hope you like crusty towels!
what do you think about the best otc combination then ?
This is true^^^^this^^^ plus it turns most guys into emotional whiny bitches
With no serm EP may be better than OGOTC PCT:
-Erase ( OG )
-Purus Labs D Pol
-Endosurge
Man... I'm gonna run Clomid year around...Side effect of Clomid: Obnoxiously large quantities of semen. Hope you like crusty towels!
yep....also add some reduce XT for cortisol control...With no serm EP may be better than OG
just use it for a few days leading up to your big money shotMan... I'm gonna run Clomid year around...
Kidding trolls.
I'm always scared to have sex in PCT because of the fact that SERMs raise sperm counts too... I don't want any more kids. Almost wore a condom but the wife would be like "da fuucxk"just use it for a few days leading up to your big money shot
you'd probably get blamed for cheating, since she'd think you are trying to protect her from STD's or something LOLI'm always scared to have sex in PCT because of the fact that SERMs raise sperm counts too... I don't want any more kids. Almost wore a condom but the wife would be like "da fuucxk"
Yep. She is half Asian... You know those Asian girls are psycho anyways...you'd probably get blamed for cheating, since she'd think you are trying to protect her from STD's or something LOL
I always use clomid for purposes of getting my HPTA back up and running, and nolvadex for a preventative or treatment for gyno....BUT supposedly nolvadex is just as good as clomid for PCT. some guys get HUGE increases in endogenous test from clomid, while others get just average increases...but yeah that is what it does. Does nolvadex do it just as well? I'm not sure to be honest, never used it for that purpose.Yep. She is half Asian... You know those Asian girls are psycho anyways...
I have a question about SERMs... I've read a lot of literature on Clomid and how it boosts test levels but does nolva boost test levels too? I'm kinda lost at this because ive yet to find anything on it really. Am I looking in the wrong place.
For test increase, i'd rather use Arimidex or Aromasin.I always use clomid for purposes of getting my HPTA back up and running, and nolvadex for a preventative or treatment for gyno....BUT supposedly nolvadex is just as good as clomid for PCT. some guys get HUGE increases in endogenous test from clomid, while others get just average increases...but yeah that is what it does. Does nolvadex do it just as well? I'm not sure to be honest, never used it for that purpose.
You could but ad3 is ad3. He can still run 3 pills a day...Daa and endosurge cover him in all aspects. Plus contain L DopaWith no serm EP may be better than OG
Any literature on this? Not doubting you, just trying to learn...For test increase, i'd rather use Arimidex or Aromasin.
clomid plus DAA/NMDA (or any other legit OTC test booster) is usually my choice. with some erase of course.For test increase, i'd rather use Arimidex or Aromasin.
Does clomid still prevent gyno? Or atleast lessen the chances? And those vision sides... Not permanent right?clomid plus DAA/NMDA (or any other legit OTC test booster) is usually my choice. with some erase of course.
90 60 30 30 . You could even go 60 60 30 30 cause epi is mild as heck.Hey time for one of "those" questions. Small 4 week cycle epi at 30mg no higher the whole way
Got torem for pct 120/90/60/30? 90//60/30/30? Or ?/?/?/?....??????
Dude,def add something..Look into Endosurge (Div 3,4 and L Dopa)..Might pick up another test booster unless you think that pct is good enough
Pick up active extreme by driven sports. It binds to shbg to stop it from limiting test so much. Higher shbg you have the less test ya have floating around.Might pick up another test booster unless you think that pct is good enough
It will be fineWould activate xtreme be enough with torem,daa,erase? I had lean xtreme on my list but someone mentioned that a 4 week low dose cycle of epi won't be much and I'd be fine without it. I have 20 days on cycle still so I'll do some shopping today? Also gonna check endosurge I just don't wanna drop anymore funds on this cycle so I just wanna get what I'll need to recover everything still gonna do bloods after cycle. I have no problem getting another component for pct if needed though. Thanks for the advice pyro and jay
That's what I'm doing right now after a SD cycle. On day 5 of PCT and feel great. Had one slight "emotional" day but fixed that with a good mountain bike rideclomid plus DAA/NMDA (or any other legit OTC test booster) is usually my choice. with some erase of course.
Im worried about those emotional sides. I don't think my wife will like the drama queen in meThat's what I'm doing right now after a SD cycle. On day 5 of PCT and feel great. Had one slight "emotional" day but fixed that with a good mountain bike ride
You recover from mild phs fast. Serms have side effects when it comes to building muscle which is why if you can get recovered with a lower dose then that's great. All 3 lower your natural igf1. Clomid has vision problems( I believe) torem increases shbg which limits test levels. Nolva works slowly and can destroy your gallbladder ( gallstones in my case) . All 3 can cause exteene nausea and all 3 prevent gains to an extent. Why would you Mega dose them?Ok with a mild ph isn't if you are shut down your shut down and it doesn't matter how mild it is? I get maybe it's easier to bounce back but correct me if I'm wrong, it doesn't matter what you take if you shut yourself down it's basically all equivalent
60 mg will cause non mild shut down. Idk how they deal with the joint issues at that highThere's some 60mg logs here of epi which i still don't agree with I just think if u gotta run 60 just get a stronger ph or stack/bridge it
Cissus and fish oil. 60mg is the only way I'll epi, and honestly erase hurts my joints much worse60 mg will cause non mild shut down. Idk how they deal with the joint issues at that high
Epi plus unmethylated winny cycle pleaseCissus and fish oil. 60mg is the only way I'll epi, and honestly erase hurts my joints much worse
Hmmmm future cycle??? Haha epi is killing my knee at 30 mgs and I'm on day 12 and when I was running Erase pro I could feel it too. orange triad is my savior for now I may pick up glucosamine from a local DNC store for the rest of my cycle fish oil I'm taking as well @ 3 caps a day I may do like 4 nowEpi plus unmethylated winny cycle please
My squat is my heavyest lift so.....no. my next cycle will be an oral (andro hard) plus trenazone for 8 weeks. Then ill pin. Test e 500 mg per week with a dbol kicker. Add on some andro mass ( still looking into) then cruise at 250 mg cyp per week if I take well to pinning.Hmmmm future cycle??? Haha epi is killing my knee at 30 mgs and I'm on day 12 and when I was running Erase pro I could feel it too. orange triad is my savior for now I may pick up glucosamine from a local DNC store for the rest of my cycle fish oil I'm taking as well @ 3 caps a day I may do like 4 now