Nolvadex vs Clomid? Test Boosters?
- 03-22-2011, 01:01 AM
Nolvadex vs Clomid? Test Boosters?
Hi, I was wondering what's better for a Superdrol cycle; Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) or Clomid (Clomiphene).
I know Nolva should be dosed at at least 20/20/20/10/10 but never looked into Clomid as people reports more side effects and mood swings.
Also, for PCT would you guys go with a Natty Test Booster like Activate Extreme or Erase? I already have DAA for it but I heard cortisol levels are important and should be under control. What do you think? Thanks!
Thanks in advance!
- 03-23-2011, 02:22 PM
03-23-2011, 07:53 PM
03-24-2011, 07:55 PM
Nolva and Activate should be good, or if you go with Revolution PCT and Finaflex Pure Test combo might work too but I'd be save and Do it with Nolvadex
03-25-2011, 01:18 AM
03-25-2011, 01:43 AM
03-25-2011, 09:55 AM
03-25-2011, 08:09 PM
03-27-2011, 12:52 AM
03-27-2011, 01:15 AM
[quote=FatalFunnel;2808398]From my knowledge clomid is better at regulating prolactin levels.
clomid doesnt regulate prolactin.. its a SERM
for prolactin you want ldopa p5p dostinex prami ect
03-29-2011, 04:33 AM
[quote=swollen87;2809693]superdrol is not a progestin
Thanks for all the answers! I appreciate it.
Would it really make a difference that I use Nolva for PCT instead of Clomid? I already got it and paid good money for it I don't feel like wasting more money on Clomid, if it does make a big difference I'll consider it, if not then guess I'll go with Nolva.
03-29-2011, 08:04 PM
03-29-2011, 11:30 PM
04-13-2011, 09:07 AM
04-13-2011, 10:41 AM
04-13-2011, 06:04 PM
04-13-2011, 06:15 PM
04-13-2011, 06:29 PM
nice..thanks bro..theres a sale for some erase and adamantium get both for 50 bucks. sounds like a good enough deal
hey one more thing.. does nolva knock your **** in the dirt or have i heard wrong?
04-13-2011, 09:29 PM
04-15-2011, 01:31 AM
I need some help! Going to run first Ph cycle of Havoc. I have read alot but not enough to feel comfortable starting yet. I have for PCT: AI's Cycle support, DNS's Lean Extreme, Erase, and Novla. Suggestions with structure of cycle and dosages? Thanks!
04-16-2011, 01:47 PM
Just start Nolva and take Erase on your 3rd week of PCT, that should get the job done, there are other supplements too do some research read Superdrol for dummies, even though it's not Havoc you can get some info from there.
04-18-2011, 07:58 PM
Hey guys I wanted to try some Nolva at the advice of some body builder friends. I was a total idiot when I was 20 and did a cycle of M1t or Methyl d, I can't remember. Anyhow from then on I gradually felt like ****. Thyroid problems, low sex drive, depressed. Anyhow, I took some chrysin with DMSO recently, and felt like I was 18 again, energy, a lil more aggressive, and up in sex drive. I had kinda gotten used to the low drive thing the past 6 years (26 now), and had no idea I needed to do PCT 6 years ago, but after realizing what chrysin did I began researching and discovered my foolishness and not doing any PCT is probably what lead me down this road. ANYHOW, that said i did bloodwork and my total test was 417 on the 279-800 scale and my total estro was 46 on the 0-54 scale. So I'm thinking my estrogen got stuck in the higher ranges and is whats causing low libido depression foggy thinking etc. Would doing a cycle of nolvadex be a good idea to try and restore my HPTA? Or something else. Any replies are much appreciated thanks guys.
P.s. I have a large varicocele that im getting the micro surgery for just incase this is throwing things off hormonally too.
04-18-2011, 11:55 PM
One of my theories (I haven't seen a post about it) would be... to use another prohormone (it will raise your test levels again) and then do a proper PCT? I mean every body is a new world, but is there any information that proves this theory wrong? I would like to know, IMO it should work, but not many people wants to do a PH after having a bad experience with one, in last case you can always take the risk.
04-19-2011, 09:31 PM
Thank you for the reply die, what type of doctor prescribes, because I have considered doing it under medical supervision. I actually found this attached article and am leaning more towards clomid because I'm not doing this as a post cycle thing, I'm looking more to restore my natural production, what are you or any of you guy's thoughts on clomid to restore botched test levels?
I was debating between Nolvadex and Clomid but it seems like Clomid may be good for any low test caused from PH. Also, my low test may be a combo case due to my stage 3 varicocele and a M1T cycle without PCT.
Fertil Steril. 2003 Jan;79(1):203-5.
Use of clomiphene citrate to reverse premature andropause secondary to steroid abuse.
OBJECTIVE: To report a case of symptomatic hypogonadism induced by the abuse of multiple steroid preparations that was subsequently reversed by clomiphene. DESIGN: Case report. SETTING: University-affiliated andrology practice within family practice clinic. PATIENT(S): A 30-year-old male. INTERVENTION(S): Clomiphene citrate, 100-mg challenge for 5 days, followed by treatment at same dose for 2 months. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURE(S): Clinical symptoms, androgen decline in aging male questionnaire, total T, FSH, LH. RESULT(S): Reversal of symptoms, normalization of T levels with LH surge, restoration of pituitary-gonadal axis. CONCLUSION(S): Clomiphene citrate is used typically in helping to restore fertility in females. This represents the first case report of the successful use of clomiphene to restore T levels and the pituitary-gonadal axis in a male patient. The axis was previously shut off with multiple anabolic steroid abuse.
04-20-2011, 12:21 AM
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