Nolva after H Drol

[johnrobert227]

For a 6 week cycle of H drol at 50/50/75/75/75/75 , should nolva be run at 20/20/10/10 pct, or is it better to go wit 40/40/20/20?

 

[kanakafarian]

For a 6 week cycle of H drol at 50/50/75/75/75/75 , should nolva be run at 20/20/10/10 pct, or is it better to go wit 40/40/20/20?

You're good to go with 20/20/10/10

 

[johnrobert227]

Is it worth doing 40 mg the first day or two? Or is that not necessary

 

[kanakafarian]

Is it worth doing 40 mg the first day or two? Or is that not necessary

Not necessary.

 

[ryansm]

Honestly imo mitigating your exposure to a SERM is ideal

Clomid and Nolvadex

 

[johnrobert227]

That was a good read by the way, thanks for that link

 

[TulsaTalons]

Honestly imo mitigating your exposure to a SERM is ideal

"Regardless of any positive effects on fertility or testosterone levels, Clomid and Nolvadex use is highly correlated with erectile dysfunction, libido suppression, and even emotional disorders"

"Tamoxifen is often used to combat gyno during cycle when “flare ups” occur. While tamoxifen may provide immediate inhibition of proliferation, and serve as valuable tool, it can actually increase future susceptibility to gyno"

wtf man?? :yikes:

 

[BigBlackGuy]

"Regardless of any positive effects on fertility or testosterone levels, Clomid and Nolvadex use is highly correlated with erectile dysfunction, libido suppression, and even emotional disorders"

"Tamoxifen is often used to combat gyno during cycle when “flare ups” occur. While tamoxifen may provide immediate inhibition of proliferation, and serve as valuable tool, it can actually increase future susceptibility to gyno"

wtf man?? :yikes:

This is caused by tamoxifen’s ability to up-regulate the progesterone receptor. (54-56) This can dramatically increase the chances of developing gyno in future cycles when utilizing progestin based anabolics such as Nandrolone (Deca) or Trenbolone (or any pro-hormone acting upon the progesterone receptor).

Regardless of any positive effects on fertility or testosterone levels, Clomid and Nolvadex use is highly correlated with erectile dysfunction, libido suppression, and even emotional disorders. (10,47)

Research with male breast cancer patients has also reported decreased libido, and thrombosis associated with tamoxifen use. (47) The thrombotic effect (blood vessel clogging) could explain the mechanism by which SERMs may inhibit erectile function, by reducing circulation to erectile tissue. (47, 52)

You can look up the studies that are cited.

 

[ryansm]

Yes, exactly why I find it best to utilize options like our TRS in addition to a lower dose of a SERM.

 

[no reason]

if your running liquid nolva (research chems ) they are underdosed and it is recommended that with those you run 60/60/40/40 to be on the safe side. i use research chem nolva and always run it a bit higher to make sure im getting the proper dosage.

 

[BigJoshStud]

ryan, what would you consider a lower dose?