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I have both ATD and 6 Bromo on hand and am going to use one at lower dosage during the rest of my H Drol cycle. Anyone have any preference on one over the other and can give a reason why they chose that one?
1. If you have extra nolva, run it with your h-drol. remember nolva is selective in receptor sites like breast tissue, and since h-drol does not aromatize, it appears your "irritation" has to do with sensitive receptor sites in your breast tissue in response to elevated androgens(steriods) in your system.I only am adding it because I started to get some irritation with my nipples and am more prone to gyno than others. Also running the h drol 50/50/75/75/75/75 so im just using it to be safe.
For pct I have Nolva on hand so I'll use that with a test booster as well. Should I run the Nolva 20/20/10/10 or is it better at 40/40/20/20
Also I'll probably add in the atd or 6 bromo during week 3 of pct to correct and estrogen rebound, and tapper down. Remember im using this at lower dosage anyways its not like im trying to knock out estrogen completely
1. one of the 2 isonomers in 6-bromo, potentialy undergos an anabolic/androgenic conversion, so it may slow recovery of hpta during pct. Second, i feel it is a week AI, also due to the activity of the 2 isonomers, one is suicide(binds and deactivates enzyme) the other is competitive(attaches then releases from enzyme). however, it still works for pct, there are just better opt in my opinion.Thanks for that reply that is some really good information right there! I'll use the 6 bromo in those regards which is kind of what I have been debating saving it for so that should work great.
Just curious tho is there a reason that 6 bromo is not so great for after the nolva during pct? and also how much nolva would you suggest to use during cycle? In your opinion anyways
Keep ATD at 25mg a day.or so I have also heard this about ATD.. Guess we will find out, hopefully by keeping the dosage a little lower ill be good to go tho
I disagree. Gave me temporary ED.Penis will be be stiffer(if you feel like it).
I ran 6-bromo (Hyperdrol X2) at 200mgs per day on a cut 2 summers back, had nice strength gains and really leaned out big time, and I knew it was working because I got bloodwork done for lipids while I was on it and HDL was really low, lowering estrogen can hurts lipids...this was on an 8 week run of it.BTW. 6-bromo does not bind to the androgen receptor. making it a good chocie for standalone cycle. One can build muscle on it, while getting a silght leaning effect from lowered estro.
wrong,(imo) you dosed it too high and the reason for your low libido was because your estro was suppressed to much. 25mg actually benefited mineI disagree. Gave me temporary ED.
Bromo is a no go "on cycle", in my opinion it is simply not a strong enough AI. I think of bromo as a 'tweener' like brian uralcher when he came out of college, scouts could not decide if he was a SS or a LB. for me bromo is a cosmetic enhancer, in between cycles.This has been a great thread, and Mike, EXCELLENT advice on comparing the two.
I just have a few questions, as I am on cycle, and will be ending in September (I always run optimal length cycles). I am not looking to use either compound as a standalone or for PCT (yet), but rather, asking about them as possible adjunct candidates for replacing Letrozole once estrogen and prolactin has been mitigated to acceptable levels (along with Formestane).
First of all - what would you suggest for combating Estrogen activity and circulation on cycle to replace Letrozole (OR... would something like Erase/Formestane be completely superior to both)?
I was going to get AX Advanced PCT with 25mg/serving 90 capsules for $27 before doing more searching, then I found Transform Forged Bromo for $28 @ 35mg/serving plus a host of na-r-ala and other goodies. Basically the Forged Bromo was $28 for 2,100mg of total Bromo content, just over a gram. THEN finally I just came across a brand new product on pre-sale by PHF right now for $20 offering 60 caps @ 50mg, so 3,000mg (3g) total Bromo. Should I just go for the cheapest standalone Bromo, or do the small amount of 325mg synergists in Forged Bromo make a difference?
(*I ALREADY HAVE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF ATD!)
I'm just really in need of keeping sides at bay, and Letrozole is only temporary until lumps and bloating dissipate, then after tapering off I'll be running P-5-P along with high extract L-Dopa and ATD/Bromo/Formestane/(ERASE?)-Topical for the entire duration of cycle (all three... only one... two of the three)? JUST NEED TO CRUSH AND CONTROL Estrogen and Prolactin.
PS: Does the version of Bromo matter, I looked around on other forums, and saw this was being asked and was claimed as being 'critical'
Test Prop/Enanthate 1g/weekBromo is a no go "on cycle", in my opinion it is simply not a strong enough AI. I think of bromo as a 'tweener' like brian uralcher when he came out of college, scouts could not decide if he was a SS or a LB. for me bromo is a cosmetic enhancer, in between cycles.
my question to you is, what are you running? i'm assuming it is deca or tren or perhaps another with progestional activity (and the estro sides that accompany such componds)?
ATD is strong. its the volkswagon of otc AI, your letro is the BMW.
please get back to me, i hope i can provide a decent opinion
Thank you so much, this was very thought provoking and a great generous use of your time and intellect, I appreciate your advice greatly.I'd like to preface my response: The views listed below are simply my opinion. My techniques and philosophy are just methods of preference, those of you in the community offended by my opinions, please do not take offense as my comments are not a personal attack on your 'way' or knowledge. to whom this may offend, i sincerly do apologize.
Topical Form is a cool supp. nice cosmetic effect, like 6-bromo. however, not a great estro control agent.
I think Atd should work. But i would pair it with a DHT steriod to fight progesterone sides. DHT options : Winstrol, Proviron, Masteron, Primo. OTC DHT options: Androhard, Stano-drol. Add b-6 at 100mg.
However, consider this, Aromasin is a better option than Atd as it is a type 1 suicide inhibitor and could help wipe out circulating estro (prevent lumps from coming back).
Please understand, Letro is a competitive inhibitor, and one look at your cycle(aromitizing ASS combined with progestorone nor-9 ASS), tells me that letro will only help in short term, therfore, lumps may come back.
Stay away from Nolvadex, as it may cause progesterone receptors to become more sensitive (you are using TREN!)
I'm reading some of your posts and you seem to really know what you're talking about. So my question is: I'm going to be running the Flex Fitness products Beast stack. The first bottle is Beast (19-Nor, M-sten, MaxLMG) and the second half of the cycle is Wolverine (larger dose of 19-Nor and 6-Bromo). The PCT that came with it is 6-Bromo, DAA, and Milk Thistle. So my question is: Should I be increasing my dosage of 6-Bromo during post cycle or should I add ATD during post cycle for estrogen control? You seem to be expert. Let me know what you think.Bromo is a no go "on cycle", in my opinion it is simply not a strong enough AI. I think of bromo as a 'tweener' like brian uralcher when he came out of college, scouts could not decide if he was a SS or a LB. for me bromo is a cosmetic enhancer, in between cycles.
my question to you is, what are you running? i'm assuming it is deca or tren or perhaps another with progestional activity (and the estro sides that accompany such componds)?
ATD is strong. its the volkswagon of otc AI, your letro is the BMW.
please get back to me, i hope i can provide a decent opinion
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