Superdrol pct questions
- 01-09-2011, 02:17 PM
- 01-09-2011, 04:22 PM
dont run sd at 160lbs... im sure you could gain a good 20lbs in 2 months with a solid diet
get clomid and nolva if you are going to run it, you will also need a natural test booster, zma multi vitamins throughout pct and if it was me i would run clomid at 150/100/50/50 4 weeks and an AI along side. keep nolva on hand incase of gyno.
but you have alot of natural potential left, dont jump on gear too soon!
01-09-2011, 04:32 PM
01-09-2011, 04:47 PM
Thanks for the responses! Most of the ai's that I have been looking for are not available. Recomendations on an ai?
01-09-2011, 05:16 PM
01-13-2011, 08:34 AM
AFAIK, and AI isn't needed w/ SD since it doesn't even aromatize...
I was at 165 and ran a cycle of mdrol. I'm a hard gainer and tried plenty of training and diet changes, at least to the extent that I'm able to. But that's a whole other discussion in itself. It depends on why you want to run a cycle now, and what have you don't in the past. if you were say... 135 like I used to be 5 yrs ago, then there's no way in the world you should be looking at PH/DS's, but I don't think it's necessarily bad to run a PH/DS now as long as you're aware of the risks and have the right products on hand to maintain your well-being.
As for PCT, I ran a Nolva PCT and didn't get any signs of gyno. However, I did feel a bit "un-excite-able" for a while. I just liked the sound of 10-40mg Nolva over 100-150mg Clomid. But next cycle, I plan on trying out Clomid.
01-13-2011, 09:27 AM
01-13-2011, 10:05 AM
op, SD 1-4 10-20mgs ED
PCT: Clomid 100 for 3 days then 50 for the remaining 4 weeks
Nolva 40 for 3 days then 20 for the remaining 3 weeks
AI like ADEX, Aromsin (spelling is off) or even ATD (as a last resort)
run it at a higher dose then ramp down for 4 weeks.
i.e. A-DEX week one .5mgs. EOD
Week two .25mgs. EOD..... so on and so forth.
the reason for the AI is simple. when you're shut down your body stops producing natural test, right? right. so when you come off you're going to have to jump start your HPTA by using a SERM and HCG if necessary.
now knowing that, a SERM will block all estro (supposedly) from attaching to the receptor and giving you those lovely "bitch tits" you see on others. so anyway, after you stop taking the SERM you might have a bunch of estro running around which can come from new natural test being converted and or the estro still left in your body when you were taking the ph/ps.
until your body balances everything out (test to estro relation) adding an AI will not hurt you. will not hurt you unless your estro is really low for some reason. a blood test would confirm this, and this would be the only way to really know where any of your levels truly are. most people do not have blood work done so it's a guessing game.
any of that make sense?
01-14-2011, 04:07 AM
01-14-2011, 05:31 AM
01-14-2011, 08:16 AM
if you run an AI at a straight dose and do not taper down there's there's a risk
01-14-2011, 10:22 AM
01-14-2011, 03:06 PM
01-14-2011, 03:23 PM
01-14-2011, 03:28 PM
No way, looks like trash to me. I don't even think I'd take it as a test booster. The 6-bromo is the only thing I know of in here that has real effect on hormones. Grapefruit Extract can have effects on metabolism of certain medicines/steroids. But yah, if you want to stack it with a SERM then by all means, try it out.Free T Proprietary Pure Avenacosides Matrix, 6-Bromodione, Prolact-X Proprietary Diterpine Matrix from Chasteberry Extract, MbAET, CYP-X Proprietary Grapefruit Extract, Piperine
01-14-2011, 03:31 PM
01-14-2011, 03:37 PM
01-14-2011, 03:48 PM
so im running nolva for a m-drol 10-20-30-......30?
in wk 3-4 of pct start erase,,taper dose down???what dose do u like ?
shoud that be enough?
01-14-2011, 03:54 PM
01-14-2011, 04:02 PM
01-14-2011, 04:06 PM
I generally run an OTC AI in an inverse taper to my SERM, such that as the SERM dosing is tapered down, the AI dosing is tapered up, then tapered down. As an example, for a recent PCT for P-Mag/Furuza-A, I ran the following:
Clomid - 75/50/35/35/17.5 (liquid SERM in 35mg per 1ml)
PES Erase (or ATD) - 0/1/2/2/3/2/1
TestForce2 (DAA product) - Two tubs, used as suggested, starting last week of cycle
Isatori Isa-Test - Two bottles, used as suggested, first day of PCT
I also use the following OTC supplements starting last week of cycle:
I3C - 200mg 2x per day
DIM - 25mg, 2x per day
Trans Resveratrol - 500mg, 2x per day (standardized to 250mg)
People might think it's overkill, unnecessary, or being redundant, but I don't care. I am in favor of "the more the merrier" when it comes to PCT. I have never had a problem with rebound gyno or estrogen issues and my post-PCT bloodwork has come back in the 1,000+ range. All gains were maintained and continued to increase and I feel like a million bucks.
It makes for a longer, more expensive PCT, but I like to err on the side of a robust, proper PCT than a rushed, lacking one.
01-14-2011, 04:12 PM
i agree id rather do rite ,spend more time and $ but oh well,
i only have nolva,no clomid, would anything change
01-14-2011, 04:19 PM
01-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Nolva will work well. There are plenty of people that only use a SERM and nothing more and are successful. I just don't risk it.
01-14-2011, 04:24 PM
this is what ive been waiting to figure out,
thanks for the help,this site is pretty cool
ill be starting my cycle 2moro