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How would your PCT look like for a very heavy Tren/Epistane cycle?

rochabp

rochabp

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okay so i need some help im gonna run a really hard core cycle of epi and tren for about 45 days even

epistane -60/60/60/60/60/60
tren-----120/120/120/120/120/120
4ad-----------160/160/160/160

i know it looks really heavy but im gonna run it
anyways for PCt i was thinking

clomid ----100/100/50/50
Toremifene 120/60/60/30
creatine
testbooster


any suggestions? what would you add or take away from PCT?


could i add cabergoline to PCT if i was to develope problems from tren?
 
Have Caber on hand. Clomid looks good. you can low dose an AI 3-4 weeks into PCT. Erase or Trizole look good. just run at hald dose. You could add a cort blocker. Dosing a liver supp for 6 weeks with no alchy is a must after that cycle.

How was that cycle? LLooks pretty nuts man. Id dose some hghpro for the L-dopa in PCT as well with your testbooster to keep prolactin low and help with maintaining gains .
 
BTW I am really liking your cycle.. Really likin it.
As for AI, I just bought forma stanzol.. I love formastane. Best OTC AI..
 
well i havent run it yet but im gonna
so i might add a cort blocker but i really dont want to add an AI as i heard its not that good when it come to PCT

btw if you guys want ill invite you to the log
i will prolly start it next week
 
rochabp said:
well i havent run it yet but im gonna
so i might add a cort blocker but i really dont want to add an AI as i heard its not that good when it come to PCT

btw if you guys want ill invite you to the log
i will prolly start it next week
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No my friend!
AI only PCTs are stupid.
SERM and AI PCTs are superior!!
And the good thing about forma is that it lowers prolactin and estrogen! And 19-nor will for sure raise your prolactin.

Log this and I will follow!
And HCGenerate acts as a cort blocker as well as a test booster.
And I am pretty sure formestane blocks cort as well..
 
if you havnt run the Epi i would ramp up 40/40/50/50/60/60

I wouldnt run anything above 50 or passed 5 weeks but its up to you. hit the liver sups hard during and in pct. drink 1.5 gallons a day.
 
JCunningham said:
No my friend!
AI only PCTs are stupid.
SERM and AI PCTs are superior!!
And the good thing about forma is that it lowers prolactin and estrogen! And 19-nor will for sure raise your prolactin.

Log this and I will follow!
And HCGenerate acts as a cort blocker as well as a test booster.
And I am pretty sure formestane blocks cort as well..
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well my test booster has an AI in it, ATD

do you think i should run both clomid and toremifene? or just clomid and get some cagergoline?
 
I don't think I'd run torem that high with clomid man. I've run PCT with clomid, with nolva and with torem and after all that I think the best way to run PCT is to use both clomid and nolva, FROM DIFFERENT COMPANIES (in case you get bunk stuff), at the same time at really high dose for first 3 days and then ramp down over 5 weeks.

no need to run clomid that high either. that is many times medical use dose and clomid does have side effects. 100mg for first few days, then maybe 75mg for a week and then 50mg for a few weeks and then 25mg. much better imo.

i'd ramp the epi too.
 
no way in hell am i gonna run nolva after a tren cycle
that aint happening

so PCT might look like this

clomid 100/75/50/25
tore --60/60/30/30
test booster
creatine
 
rochabp said:
no way in hell am i gonna run nolva after a tren cycle
that aint happening

so PCT might look like this

clomid 100/75/50/25
tore --60/60/30/30
test booster
creatine
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Add in an AI..
You have 2 synthetic estrogens (clomid/torem) which will raise your E2 and SHBG levels, thus lowering your free test levels a lot..

You add in an AI and use at a mild dose and your free test will be so much higher because SHBG and E2 will be lowered accordingly. I just dont recommend ATD.. AI/SERM makes PCT so smooth.

Also, use creatine ON cycle to maximize your gains!
Log this, link this, I want to follow!
 
JCunningham said:
Add in an AI..
You have 2 synthetic estrogens (clomid/torem) which will raise your E2 and SHBG levels, thus lowering your free test levels a lot..

You add in an AI and use at a mild dose and your free test will be so much higher because SHBG and E2 will be lowered accordingly. I just dont recommend ATD.. AI/SERM makes PCT so smooth.

Also, use creatine ON cycle to maximize your gains!
Log this, link this, I want to follow!
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do you think i could get away with just clomid and skipping toremifene?

also my test booster has some atd its a prop blend but it doesnt look like its a lot that why i kinda have to use it since i have two bottle of it

why is ATD bad last i heard inhibit was awesome and that was ATD
 
BrYmAsTeR17 said:
looks good rocha! Put on them muscletech lbs. and KILL THAT SH1T!!
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of course son
i am so excited for this upcoming epi/tren/4ad cycle im just concerned about PCT
 
rochabp said:
do you think i could get away with just clomid and skipping toremifene?

also my test booster has some atd its a prop blend but it doesnt look like its a lot that why i kinda have to use it since i have two bottle of it

why is ATD bad last i heard inhibit was awesome and that was ATD
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Yes skip the torem

Clomid
Forma Stanzol
Post cycle/Unleashed combo

That will cover all your bases and get you back in running in no time my friend. ;)
 
hye guys what do you think the chances are of getting busted over two bottles of tren from the UK?
 
rochabp said:
hye guys what do you think the chances are of getting busted over two bottles of tren from the UK?
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Chances are slim to none..
Inhibit sucks bro and the people that are saying it is decent have never used any other AI.. Because EVERY AI is better than that **** lol.. Just use clomid and if your gonna be cheap, use the stupid ATD..
 
JCunningham said:
Chances are slim to none..
Inhibit sucks bro and the people that are saying it is decent have never used any other AI.. Because EVERY AI is better than that **** lol.. Just use clomid and if your gonna be cheap, use the stupid ATD..
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wait im not in the UK im in California, but i want to order some tren from the UK but im second guessing that idea since i dont wanna get screwed over by the feds

im starting to lean more towards sd/epi stack
 
rochabp said:
wait im not in the UK im in California, but i want to order some tren from the UK but im second guessing that idea since i dont wanna get screwed over by the feds

im starting to lean more towards sd/epi stack
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You will not get caught by feds man!
Trust me..
 
JCunningham said:
You will not get caught by feds man!
Trust me..
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well even if i didnt i have to pay up like $50 a bottle and i still have to buy another bottle of epi and pct and its gonna add up to a whole lot of cash

im second guessing this
i wann run it but the cash isnt there
im thinking of running epistane/methyl-DHT/t3 for a cut
 
phuck t3.

also just wait it out till you can run the best cycle nad PCT. you would only need a couple injections of hCG anyway. get the smallest size and have left overs.
 
bigwhiteguy29 said:
phuck t3.

also just wait it out till you can run the best cycle nad PCT. you would only need a couple injections of hCG anyway. get the smallest size and have left overs.
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if i were to use hcg on cycle would i have to use it on PCT too?
also you inject in the fatty tissue in stomach are right?
 
JCunningham said:
Tren not expensive from UK and you wont get caught...
HCG not expensive either.
And you can inject subq or IM..
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well i can get tren but the only thing is its finaflex harcore which has m14ad and 3/17 keto too
both at 25 mg
so my cycle would be epi/m14add/tren
i can get it for around $65

or i can get finaflex ripped which has 30 mg of tren and bold 100mg with ATD for around $45

and if i do get em i dont know if this company produce quality stuff


can anyone PM me a UK site where its cheaper or they sell tren only bottles?
 
use google.co.uk then go to the shopping tab up top and type in tren lol.. I like the tren, M1 adn epi combo, sounds nice..
 
JCunningham said:
use google.co.uk then go to the shopping tab up top and type in tren lol.. I like the tren, M1 adn epi combo, sounds nice..
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thanks a lot bro
i didnt know i could do that
lol
too bad they are not in stock right now
 
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