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  1.  10-22-2010  05:31 PM
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    Bogus SERMs


    Have any of you that use research chems for experiments ever had a SERM that was bunk?

    I am setting up my first experiment and am worried that my guinea pigs will not recover properly.

    Just wondering what people have done in the past if the SERM you got ended up being a dud? Do you just try to c.y.a. with otc stuff?

    Also, would you even be able to tell that the SERM is bunk and the rodents are not recovering?

    Thanks!!



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    Touch question... VERY tough. I can't answer that for you, although I will admit I was also someone in the past who put my faith and money in the hands of a couple shady and shameful companies selling what amounted to mouthwash - unbelievable.

    Luckily after being in the industry for so many years, I am able to get pharma grade ancillaries from a chemist who is a personal friend

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    I dont know if it still is good, but i think if you STOP (wink wink) by a certain site you will be g2g! Maybe someone that does have recent experience will chime in on that one and verify if it is still g2g.

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    I heard(from a bloke in the pub...Just a saying) that nolvadex was so cheap to produce that its rarely a dud. Anyone else???

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    Originally Posted by SkItZoId View Post
    I heard(from a bloke in the pub...Just a saying) that nolvadex was so cheap to produce that its rarely a dud. Anyone else???
    All of these are mind bogglingly cheap to produce... it would blow your brain matter to fine shredded smithereens if you knew. For example, I am able to get 30ml bottles of TRUE 100% pure liquid clen from a chemist friend at 100mcg/ml for $10 (wipe those tears), and he is still making OVER $9.00 a bottle.

    You'd be slapped back into last month if you knew the extent anyone, especially those involved in what amounts to the illegal trade business of research chemicals, would go to in order to push their profit margins up - when all it comes down to is some teenager clicking 'buy now' on their website. Accountability is gone = the invasion and erosion of bad business practices and ethics.

  6.  10-24-2010  05:54 PM
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    Originally Posted by SkItZoId View Post
    I heard(from a bloke in the pub...Just a saying) that nolvadex was so cheap to produce that its rarely a dud. Anyone else???
    There are still companies that will try to skimp. I woudn't trust certain sites that are always selling it for $15 Most are going to be "watered down" i can guarantee you that , however I'm more concerned about contamination. I personally dont want Clen in my Nolva

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    So has anyone gone into PCT to discover that their serm is fake?

    If so, what did you do?

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    Originally Posted by mw1 View Post
    There are still companies that will try to skimp. I woudn't trust certain sites that are always selling it for $15 Most are going to be "watered down" i can guarantee you that , however I'm more concerned about contamination. I personally dont want Clen in my Nolva
    Nooooo... they sanitize their oster blender between mixing clen batches and nolva batches!!! Right?
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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    has anyone gone into PCT to discover that their serm is fake?

    If so, what did you do?
    Anyone????

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    Originally Posted by BaDgErFaN View Post
    Anyone????
    Nothing can be done; purchase from another site supported by a well known forum with trustworthy contributors and a long standing history, or somehow develop a relationship with a reliable direct source.

  11.  11-02-2010  04:37 PM
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    This is the problem with the government,

    they ban everything, and everybody uses illegal, or grey area methods to get what they need.

    In the end more people are hurt, and billions in drug wars are wasted.

    Anybody who is getting a "SERM" is taking a chance, its just the way it is, unless you can test it yourself.

    I believe there are reputable sources out there though, but there is no way to know for sure unless you have it tested.

    What it all comes down to is, is it a risk your willing to take?
    나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!

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    Ill tell you what man. Its sketchy as hell. Do what I did and get 2 bottles from multiple sources. I dont care about the money when it comes to this stuff. Safety is top priority when dealing with a very unsafe matter.

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    hey i used to buy from a company that was legit and "innovative" just wondering if they still are...let me know or pm me ones you know are legit or if this one still is..thanks

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