e-stane cycle cut short

  1. e-stane cycle cut short


    I'm currently on e-stane 30mg daily. I'm having a lot of joint pain and may cut it short at 2 weeks. I have nolva but is it necessary after only 2 weeks? Would pct assist (cel) or pct support (anabolic inno) be sufficient? I also have formex and inhibit-e. Input would be appreciated re:OTC vs serm.


  2. dude I ran epi at10/30/30/40 and did Gasparis Novedex for it....Im fine....with any other compound I would use Nolva for this.....If you do cut it short an otc would be fine

  3. I would run a SERM but if you dont want to go inhibit e 2/2/1/1 and pct assist 6/6/6/6
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  4. could also throw in some tcf-1 from primordial alone inhibit-e and pct assist

  5. dont quit! joint pain (dry joints) is simply a side effect.
    get on some cissus and fish oil and plow onward.

  6. Thanks for the input everybody. I'm going to try to tough it out with the dry joints. I'm mega dosing the fish oil but have no cissus yet. I have arthritis in both knees, and a number of other injuries from years of martial arts. Next time I'll go for something a little more on the wet side!

  7. i think wet refers to water retention, not "wetness" of joints. i got dry joints bad on SD too. i suppose you could try another agent next time just to see if the sides are less/different.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by urbanski View Post
    i think wet refers to water retention, not "wetness" of joints. i got dry joints bad on SD too. i suppose you could try another agent next time just to see if the sides are less/different.
    sd reeked havoc on my joints too. had to go light for my last 2 weeks.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by urbanski View Post
    dont quit! joint pain (dry joints) is simply a side effect.
    get on some cissus and fish oil and plow onward.
    I agree,

    up the water and you'll be fine. I got some Dymatize joint repair crap and it works pretty good, was liek $5 for a bottle and I only use it as needed. usually in like 2-3 days Im fine
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  10. Thanks for the replies. I'm drinking a ton of water and high dosing the fish oil, and I'm actually feeling a lot better. Plan to keep it going for 5-6 weeks. Cissus is also on it's way. Now i just need to figure out my clomid dosage, or if I want to do nolva 20/20/10/10

  11. Quote Originally Posted by groverino View Post
    Thanks for the replies. I'm drinking a ton of water and high dosing the fish oil, and I'm actually feeling a lot better. Plan to keep it going for 5-6 weeks. Cissus is also on it's way. Now i just need to figure out my clomid dosage, or if I want to do nolva 20/20/10/10
    clomid
    50/50/50/50
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  12. Cissus. Really helps my 41 yo joints when on a dry product. And some fat is ok. Lots of water also. I have also done MSM, Glucosamine and condroiton with the cissus, but it's overkill imo.

  13. epi doesnt aromatase....so If you want use clomid to get u jumpstarted again along with some inhibit e or novedex for any estrogen rebound i suppose

  14. I hate to hear about people stopping a cycle due to dry joints,UP YOUR WATER your prob dehydrated. its not like your joints will feel better the next day after you stop.

    Also you are prob lifting more weight than you need that will add to the joint pain.
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  15. Things are much improved! It was probably overtraining from a combination of heavy weights and involvement in a number of other sports. I just have several old injuries (two torn acl, severe meniscus damage) that have led to arthritis, so I was freaking out a bit. I'm forging onward with the cycle. The stuff is starting to kick in nicely. Thanks again to everyone for the replies.
  

  
 

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