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    How long till nuts come back?


    Hi everyone,

    Just finished week 1 of PCT; Nolva 40mg/day for 4 days, and 30mg/day for 3 days. The boys show no interest in returning, and libido is dwindling.

    Cycle was mdrol 10/20/20/15. Went smooth except for lethargy and some joint pain. Libido was actually very high.

    Wondering if I should be concerned yet about lack of testicular "re-activation," or that my Nolva could be bunk.

    If it matters, I've had a sore throat all week and achey kidneys, not back pumps.

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeniman View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Just finished week 1 of PCT; Nolva 40mg/day for 4 days, and 30mg/day for 3 days. The boys show no interest in returning, and libido is dwindling.

    Cycle was mdrol 10/20/20/15. Went smooth except for lethargy and some joint pain. Libido was actually very high.

    Wondering if I should be concerned yet about lack of testicular "re-activation," or that my Nolva could be bunk.

    If it matters, I've had a sore throat all week and achey kidneys, not back pumps.

    Thanks
    sore throat and "achey" kidneys worries me...

    Well 1 week after mdrol I doubt your going to see an speedy reactivation of your nutz, read through some mdrol logs on here and watch their PCT's and see how long it generally takes.

    And if your kidneys keep aching...go to a doctor and ask to have your kidneys checked, tell him you think something is wrong and you need a test done to check levels. mdrol is one of the more toxic orals, some can run it at higher doses than normal for long periods of time and be fine, some damn near collapse from 5 mg...the sheer differences that exist in individual physiologies are astounding.
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    clomi is best at restoring the boys 100mg day 1 then 75 for wk 1 then 50 wk 3 then 25 wk 4. and your set. also add in ATD or an ai startign day 15 and taper
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    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty33 View Post
    clomi is best at restoring the boys 100mg day 1 then 75 for wk 1 then 50 wk 3 then 25 wk 4. and your set. also add in ATD or an ai startign day 15 and taper
    IMO Toremifene will bring the nutz back even quicker than Clomid...
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    My bod responds well to even mild PH's. With little sides. But one week PCT? Me thinks you should have run it longer.
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    Get a resveratrol based PCT product as well, or switch your SERM to Torem, IMO. Torem is very powerful at restoring testicular function, but seems less protective against gyno, so be careful.
    Paging Dr. Banner. . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by phL8Tme View Post
    My bod responds well to even mild PH's. With little sides. But one week PCT? Me thinks you should have run it longer.
    No, just finished the FIRST week of my 6 week PCT. Tapering Nolva to 30/20/10/0/0 , adding an AI and cortisol control in week 3 and then tapering off that at 6 weeks.

    Sorry if I didn't give enough info, just concerned WHEN the nutz should be coming back on the Nolva. Searched all over the forums and nobody says exactly WHEN this happens. I'm concerned that my Nolva might be bunk.
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    Check ya kidney function, creatinine and GRF levels.

    Clomid/Nolva stack is a standard PCT.
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    Update: Have a full-on cold, so that explains the sore throat. Kidney aches almost gone and seem to work fine.

    Nutz still small. Can anyone PLEASE tell me a normal testicular recovery time?

    Should I be worried that my Nolva might be bunk?
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    If you are that worried about your balls coming back, id ditch the nolva and buy some clomid.

    Ive always used this with great success:
    Clomid: 50/50/25/25
    Nolva: 20/10/10/10

    My nuts always start to hurt during somewhere around the 2nd week. Like i said get some clomid and youll never have to worry about it again....
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    During week 2 you should start to see in increase in size. If at 4 weeks your nuts are still shrunken, you have a bunk SERM...
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    If you are really worried then just go for a clomid AND nolva PCT together as has already been mentioned. Give it a few weeks and if you don't see any results I would head to the doc and get a prescription.
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    Thank you guys for the useful info. I'll give it a full 2 weeks before I scramble for some Clomid.

    Isn't taking both Clomi AND Nolva overkill for a 4 week mdrol run?
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    Sorry, are concerned about testes atrophy or not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthias7 View Post
    Sorry, are concerned about testes atrophy or not?
    Still a bit concerned. At 15 days in PCT, and there's maybe some size increase, not achey or dramatic.

    Ordered some nolva and clomid from a different source, will be here in a week or so.

    Added an otc PCT yesterday, per the advice of a "pro." Will stay on my iffy nolva and this otc product till my new stuff arrives, then re-assess.

    The otc product is Recycle by Purus, so gonna hold-off taking other AI and cort control for now.

    Definitely no signs of gyno, and feeling ok now that my cold is subsiding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by weeniman View Post
    Thank you guys for the useful info. I'll give it a full 2 weeks before I scramble for some Clomid.

    Isn't taking both Clomi AND Nolva overkill for a 4 week mdrol run?
    Nolva/Clomid PCTs for 6 weeks is my second favorite protocol. I have come back from 2 VERY suppressive cycles with that PCT.

    And PCT can NEVER be overkill. It's better than being underkill. You could have problems like your balls never gaining back their size.
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