My first Hdrol cycle, and a little help with PCT...
- 11-19-2009, 04:09 PM
My first Hdrol cycle, and a little help with PCT...
My first Hdrol cycle, and a little help with PCT...
Hey I've been working out for around 2 years now, and am looking to do my first cycle of H Drol. (Originally was going to do M-Drol) but I went with H Drol because I read it was the least harsh, so I figured it would be good to start with.
I don't plan on starting my cycle until Dec. 21st, so I still have room for changes.
I'll be doing H-Drol for 4 weeks. Eating 3500 calories a day. Working out 4 days week. I really don't want to stack anything, since this is my first time doing this.
then for my PCT I'll be running
Inhibit-E
Post Cycle Support
I know my PCT is weak, but for the life of me, I can't get my hands on Nolvadex or Clomid (I know, google it, but I get weird about ordering things online, so I've been asking around locally). Is it possible to run PCT with just OTC when using H-Drol?
My stats are...
6'1
24 Years Old
220lbs. (Originally was 275, cut down to 188 and have been trying to bulk correctly since)
*EDIT FOR PEOPLE USING THIS FOR REFERENCES FOR THEIR OWN QUESTIONS* 11/25/09
H Drol - 4 Weeks
PCT - 4 Weeks
Indole-3-Carbinol
PCS
Inhibit-E
ZMA - 11-19-2009, 11:22 PM
Yes it is possible, but I woudlnt recommend it.
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- 11-20-2009, 09:28 AM
I know lots of people who ran an OTC pct with hdrol and they were fine. But you should have a SERM on hand. Make sure every piece of the puzzle is ready before you begin your cycle.
Think training's hard,. try losing! - 11-20-2009, 11:31 AM
Agreed I would have a SERM on hand. I ran a 5 week 75mg cycle with just Post Cycle Support as PCT and was fine I did have a SERM on hand. I would also suggest you run it for 5-6 weeks and not 4 as h-drol takes a while to kick in.
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http://www.facebook.com/AISportsNutrition - 11-20-2009, 11:36 AM
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- 11-20-2009, 02:59 PM
Great website, thanks for the help. I'll do six weeks on Hdrol. I'll keep looking for someone with nolvadex
- 11-20-2009, 04:36 PM
get a SERM for sure, most people say they are fine but few have blood work to back it up. there is a big difference between feeling "fine" and being recovered. I had a failed PCT and felt "fine" never know till blood work was done. be smart and get your blood work done and use a SERM man! no reason to risk it, and there are many safe online board sponsor places to get SERMs that have been selling for many many years.
also, teste atrophy occurs in as little as 2-3 weeks and is potentially permanent, i wouldn't run a cycle over 4 without HCG and usually I run it anyway since it's cheap. - 11-23-2009, 08:11 PM
OK, I'm a noob and I'm planning to run my first H-drol Cycle. I've been reading a lot of posts on here the last few days, including this one.
I'm 31, 5'10 and 165. I've been cutting massively since I started lifting again 2 years ago. I started out at 221 all body fat.
I ordered Halo-X and was going to run 50/50/50/50 and started researching to see if I needed PCT. (And boy am I glad I found this board before I jumped into it)
I've learned now that I need to up my dosage to 75-100 in the later weeks and add at least 1-2 more weeks with H-Drol, since it take a bit to kick in. I also see that I def need a PCT and def need a SERM on hand just in case. I also need to get blood work before and after...
So I need to buy Nolvadex for PCT, along with milk thistle for liver. Whats a good SERM to keep on hand? And pembroke you said that you ran post cycle support as a PCT. Is that just a PCT stack that covers everything? Get it instead of Nolvadex and milk thistle?
Thanks for all the great info guys... is there anything else I'm missing before I start ordering and preparing for this cycle?Last edited by statik; 11-23-2009 at 09:13 PM. Reason: mistyped
- 11-23-2009, 08:33 PM
- 11-23-2009, 09:12 PM
Thanks Jay. That's what I was thinking. I went from 221 to 165 losing all body fat. I'm not really trying to gain too much back, but thought 50mgs would be good to finish cutting up and putting on a little muscle. Specially since it's my first time dabbling with a ph/ps.
- 11-24-2009, 11:50 AM
I would run it for more than 4 weeks I would go to 5 or 6 possibly as ittakes a while to kick in. I did only use PCS as a pct for h-drol and my bloodwork came back fine. I did have a SERM on hand. Milk thistle is not really needed in pct unless your running a SERM. PCS can cover all your pct needs for h-drol and a select few other mild cycles but most of the time it should be run with a SERM.
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http://www.facebook.com/AISportsNutrition - 11-24-2009, 06:30 PM
- 11-25-2009, 12:45 PM
Yes PCS=Post cycle Support
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http://www.facebook.com/AISportsNutrition - 11-25-2009, 01:01 PM
Ok just an update...
right now I have Competitive Edge H-Drol, Indole-3-Carbinol, Inhibit-E, and I just placed an order for PCS, and next week I'll be ordering ZMA.
SO my PCT would consist of...
Indole-3-Carbinol
PCS
Inhibit-E
ZMA
Good, bad? ... - 11-25-2009, 01:06 PMAsk me for samples of the new RecoverPRO and Maniac. 3Z is coming July 1st Facebook for more info and maybe a great deal on it coming.
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http://www.facebook.com/AISportsNutrition - 11-25-2009, 03:00 PM
Thanks for all the help Pem... I just received my Hdrol. About to order my PCS. Anyone know if running an ECA stack with Hdrol cycle is too much on the BP? I have relatively low BP and am pretty healthy. Guess I need to get a blood test before I decide.
- 11-25-2009, 04:03 PM
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http://www.facebook.com/AISportsNutrition - 11-25-2009, 07:09 PM
- 11-27-2009, 09:18 AMAsk me for samples of the new RecoverPRO and Maniac. 3Z is coming July 1st Facebook for more info and maybe a great deal on it coming.
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