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Libido is non existant

jsp0785

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i have no desire to have sex. I've had 2 women litterally naked on top of me want to have sex and i had absolutely no interest. i haven't ran a cycle since march and it went away after pct was over. no test boosters help and last time i tried yohimbine which usually worked it just made me jittery. i sent out for a saliva test and waiting to see back from that. anybody have any ideas who's had the same issue?
 
Formestane and Sustain Alpha work great for increased libido. As for what's causing your lack thereof, it could be a number of factors(not cycle related)... i.e. stress, overtraining etc. The saliva test should elucidate your concerns of test and lh levels. But really, if all was ran correctly you should have bounced back fine.

What was your cycle consisting of and what did your pct look like?
 
TexasTitan said:
Proviron? Clomid?
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never heard of proviron. i do have clomid and it helps a little but i'm going to stay off it until after the saliva test. i've seen people say clomid didn't do anything for them until they added an AI like arimidex. it has to be either high estrodiol or DHT levels i would guess
 
formestane does nothing for me, sustain alpha was ok. stoked does nothing for me. mass fx did nothing for me. prime did nothing for me.
 
jsp0785 said:
formestane does nothing for me, sustain alpha was ok. stoked does nothing for me. mass fx did nothing for me. prime did nothing for me.
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I think a trip to the doctor for some bloodwork may be in order. Make sure everything is ok.
 
Don't forget to look in to the less obvious culprit... Overtraining. I had the same issue a few months back and it was from overtraining. I didn't even notice I was doing it till I had multiple symptoms add up and I crashed. First I got lethargic. At first just a little and then slowly it got worse and worse till all I wanted to do was sleep. No libido, none, 0, absolutly nothing! (Same as you, only I had 1 naked chick, my wife, on top of me and I had to fake it big time). Haha. I thought to myself, "Never would I have thought!". I was also very irritable, and I could not sleep very well. The soreness in my body that would usually go away in a few days was not going away. Any of this sound familiar?

The hardest thing for me was forcing myself to take a break! It is a mental thing. You don't want to backslide on your training, bur looking back on it that is exactly what I was doing to myself while training. I just took a week off from training, kept my nutrition in check, and got as much sleep as possible and all is good now.

If this is bot the problem and does not sound remotely correct, I appologize for taking up this much space in your thread! Hope it all works out for you!

Oh.... Wait... Almost fogott, it may be one more thing. You might be turning into a homosexual!

:)
 
caliphotog said:
Don't forget to look in to the less obvious culprit... Overtraining. I had the same issue a few months back and it was from overtraining. I didn't even notice I was doing it till I had multiple symptoms add up and I crashed. First I got lethargic. At first just a little and then slowly it got worse and worse till all I wanted to do was sleep. No libido, none, 0, absolutly nothing! (Same as you, only I had 1 naked chick, my wife, on top of me and I had to fake it big time). Haha. I thought to myself, "Never would I have thought!". I was also very irritable, and I could not sleep very well. The soreness in my body that would usually go away in a few days was not going away. Any of this sound familiar?

The hardest thing for me was forcing myself to take a break! It is a mental thing. You don't want to backslide on your training, bur looking back on it that is exactly what I was doing to myself while training. I just took a week off from training, kept my nutrition in check, and got as much sleep as possible and all is good now.

If this is bot the problem and does not sound remotely correct, I appologize for taking up this much space in your thread! Hope it all works out for you!

Oh.... Wait... Almost fogott, it may be one more thing. You might be turning into a homosexual!

:)
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my sleep pattern sucks but it always has, and i have cut back on training from 5 days a week to 3. what i'm doing now is taking a break from all supplements. i've been on something constantly for i dont even know how long. whether it be a test booster or creatine or some type of preworkout thing. so i'm ditching that and seeing what happens.
 
caliphotog said:
Don't forget to look in to the less obvious culprit... Overtraining. I had the same issue a few months back and it was from overtraining. I didn't even notice I was doing it till I had multiple symptoms add up and I crashed. First I got lethargic. At first just a little and then slowly it got worse and worse till all I wanted to do was sleep. No libido, none, 0, absolutly nothing! (Same as you, only I had 1 naked chick, my wife, on top of me and I had to fake it big time). Haha. I thought to myself, "Never would I have thought!". I was also very irritable, and I could not sleep very well. The soreness in my body that would usually go away in a few days was not going away. Any of this sound familiar?

The hardest thing for me was forcing myself to take a break! It is a mental thing. You don't want to backslide on your training, bur looking back on it that is exactly what I was doing to myself while training. I just took a week off from training, kept my nutrition in check, and got as much sleep as possible and all is good now.

If this is bot the problem and does not sound remotely correct, I appologize for taking up this much space in your thread! Hope it all works out for you!

Oh.... Wait... Almost fogott, it may be one more thing. You might be turning into a homosexual!

:)
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i'll ask the doc for a homo test if i go cause i don't know if they check for semen in the saliva as part of the hormone test. thanks for the advice:jester:
 
test was sent out last week. i wanna say hopefully it finds something off because then i'll know whats wrong, but if it is low test levels i don't have any insurance to get something to try and fix that. is TRT the only answer with something like that?
 
Even if your test levels are low, it may not necessarily mean trt/hrt. It could be from a previous cycle that depressed your test and it never got restarted the way it should have. There is a good chance if that is the problem, that you could get it working normally again. Then if worse comes to worse, then the trt/hrt is an option. Just don't jump to the last option imo right off the bat.
 
dg806 said:
Even if your test levels are low, it may not necessarily mean trt/hrt. It could be from a previous cycle that depressed your test and it never got restarted the way it should have. There is a good chance if that is the problem, that you could get it working normally again. Then if worse comes to worse, then the trt/hrt is an option. Just don't jump to the last option imo right off the bat.
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alright thanks. that's what i was wondering. i was going to run low dose clomid for a while with low dose arimidex to see if that would help but i put it off to get the test done.
 
jsp0785 said:
alright thanks. that's what i was wondering. i was going to run low dose clomid for a while with low dose arimidex to see if that would help but i put it off to get the test done.
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This may be off topic a little but if you have no libido.....how did you get 2 women on top of you in the first place. YOu must have had some sort of sex drive to get them there. Two girls aren't just gonna jump into bed without some persuasion and the persuading is not gonna happen with libido???? What happend afterwards.

(Maybe these girls are too ugly with their clothes off..JK)
 
luclyluciano said:
This may be off topic a little but if you have no libido.....how did you get 2 women on top of you in the first place. YOu must have had some sort of sex drive to get them there. Two girls aren't just gonna jump into bed without some persuasion and the persuading is not gonna happen with libido???? What happend afterwards.

(Maybe these girls are too ugly with their clothes off..JK)
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haha wrong u are my friend. the one i've slept with before and has wanted me ever since and the other was the first time i hung out with her. i tried absolutely nothing and next thing i know she's got her tits in my face.
 
just got test results back.

E2 3.1 pg/ml
Progesterone 52.2 pg/ml
Ratio PG/E2 16.7 pg/ml
DHEA 88.6 pg/ml
Morning Cortisol 6.0 pg/ml

says test levels are normal for people with supplementation. I was on mass fx but stopped a week or 2 before taking the test.
 
Interpretations:
• A component of the estradiol level may be due to aromatization of testosterone by adipose tissue. The low Pg/E2 ratio is consistent with estrogen dominance, which increases the risk of prostate gland enlargement and cancer. Though the progesterone level is above the reference range, progesterone supplementation will be needed to balance the Pg /E2 ratio.
Estriol
pg/ml
(1) <30.0 females non-pregnant
Estradiol (E2)
3.1
pg/ml
X
(1) 1.0-3.2 post; (2) 1.0-10.8 pre; (3) 1.5-10.8 supplementation; (4) <2.5 males
Progesterone
52.2
pg/ml
X
(1) 18-126 post; (2) 127-446 pre (luteal); (3) 500-3000 supplementation; (4) <51 males
Ratio of Pg/E2
16.7
X
(1) 200-600 females; (2) 200-300 males;
Testosterone
245.6
pg/ml
X
(1) 30.1-142.5 males; (2) 6.0-49 females; (3) 30-60 therapy females; (4) 250-350 therapy males;
DHEA
88.6
pg/ml
X
(1) 137-336 males; (2) 106-300 females
Cortisol Morning
6.0
nmol/L
X
(1) 5.1-40.2
Cortisol Noon
nmol/L
(1) 2.1-15.7
Cortisol Evening
nmol/L
(1) 1.8-12.1
Cortisol Night
nmol/L
(1) 0.9-9.2
• Testosterone level is most consistent with supplementation (not indicated).
• DHEA level is consistent with the expected decline with age (adrenopause). Note: Supplementation with DHEA may increase Testosterone and/or Estradiol levels.
• AM Cortisol level and reported symptoms are consistent with evolving adrenal gland fatigue (hypoadrenia), though concomitant thyroid and/or iodine insufficiency cannot be ruled out. The current samples will be held for 30 days from receipt.
 
jsp0785 said:
i have no desire to have sex. I've had 2 women litterally naked on top of me want to have sex and i had absolutely no interest. i haven't ran a cycle since march and it went away after pct was over. no test boosters help and last time i tried yohimbine which usually worked it just made me jittery. i sent out for a saliva test and waiting to see back from that. anybody have any ideas who's had the same issue?
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hey man highly recommend see your physician, a buddy of mine I lifted with had the same problem and he discovered that his testosterone was 150!! This maybe be something that could be very serious involving your prostate gland. I would go to the doctor and take it from there... good luck!
 
lift or die said:
hey man highly recommend see your physician, a buddy of mine I lifted with had the same problem and he discovered that his testosterone was 150!! This maybe be something that could be very serious involving your prostate gland. I would go to the doctor and take it from there... good luck!
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well according to those tests my test levels and e2 are on the high side with a low progesterone to e2 ratio. as i stated before i can't afford a dr. working part time going to school.
 
Did you try Diesel Test Hardcore?..if not, consider it. Stuff works wonders and has bloowork results posted on their website. Great feedback all over this forum.
 
Saw Palmetto Everyday Till your prostate is back to its original state, I had the issue before, It was my prostate, if you Push where your gooch is and it hurts, Ya that is def a bad thing, Your prostate AFFECTS EVERYTHING.

Your prostate has two important functions: one is to help control urination and the other is to help sexual activity.

The growth of the prostate and control over how it works are fundamentally based on the levels of the male sex hormone testosterone, which is produced by the testes. The production of testosterone is itself controlled by another complex set of hormonal interaction

And the other i'd recommend which maybe you didnt take enough time on your pct Either Fareston or Clomid. Preferrably i love Clomid Mix it with some yohimbe and your like a god sent waiting to pounce on every woman you see. Take 50mg for 60days.

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That is a forum of a person who did the same, and was suffering from similiar problems.

I had this same problem after doing Test/Db0l for 10 weeks. Will never do it again. Now im back to the old matt, and feel great.

Fishoils are another thing that will boost it thru the roof.

Any more questions pm me.

Ps
Most libido things are garbage, Like trib and whatever else of these "Test boosters" they come out with.

Stick with the basics Fish oil/cardio/Saw palmetto/protein/high legumes/veggie diet/Gaba.

I have a 1000 bottle of tribuluus it doesnt do anything lol. IT was all mental
 
MattRoeske said:
Saw Palmetto Everyday Till your prostate is back to its original state, I had the issue before, It was my prostate, if you Push where your gooch is and it hurts, Ya that is def a bad thing, Your prostate AFFECTS EVERYTHING.

Your prostate has two important functions: one is to help control urination and the other is to help sexual activity.

The growth of the prostate and control over how it works are fundamentally based on the levels of the male sex hormone testosterone, which is produced by the testes. The production of testosterone is itself controlled by another complex set of hormonal interaction

And the other i'd recommend which maybe you didnt take enough time on your pct Either Fareston or Clomid. Preferrably i love Clomid Mix it with some yohimbe and your like a god sent waiting to pounce on every woman you see. Take 50mg for 60days.

Invalid Link Removed
That is a forum of a person who did the same, and was suffering from similiar problems.

I had this same problem after doing Test/Db0l for 10 weeks. Will never do it again. Now im back to the old matt, and feel great.

Fishoils are another thing that will boost it thru the roof.

Any more questions pm me.

Ps
Most libido things are garbage, Like trib and whatever else of these "Test boosters" they come out with.

Stick with the basics Fish oil/cardio/Saw palmetto/protein/high legumes/veggie diet/Gaba.

I have a 1000 bottle of tribuluus it doesnt do anything lol. IT was all mental
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great info thanks. whats weird is i'm taking propecia now and have been taking saw palmetto but no consistantly. the best i've felt as far as energy and getting libido back was twice in the last year when i was on antibiotics. maybe prostate infection? what effect can thyroid function have on libido and circulation? i used to be very vascular but not at all anymore. wish i had health insurance and could get some blood work done
 
The propecia will certainly have some effect on the prostate since its used to treat enlarged prostates. Alsol remember that 1% off propecia is impotence, but I'm not sure if that is because of the dht level change or the prostate.
 
glockgod said:
The propecia will certainly have some effect on the prostate since its used to treat enlarged prostates. Alsol remember that 1% off propecia is impotence, but I'm not sure if that is because of the dht level change or the prostate.
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i think it's change in DHT. i haven't noticed those effects at all. things have been better. i know proscar is used for prostate which is 5mgs. would the 1mg in propecia be enough to combat this? i really wanna hop on dutasteride but don't have the money for that right now
 
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