Best PCT for Epi
- 04-26-2009, 03:35 PM
- 04-26-2009, 04:14 PM
Novla and clomid are not otc
For epistane to be on the safe side since its a 5a reduced ph, which means plenty of estrogen secretion post cycle.
AI pcs(stoked) 4/ 4/ 4/ 4
AE 3/3 / 3/ 3
cort blocker optionaldoing my own thang!
- 04-26-2009, 04:17 PM
if you want OTC the best is 2nd gear and PCS!!!
for RC i like clomid, works very well for me
04-26-2009, 04:34 PM
04-26-2009, 04:38 PM
just get some clomid and PCS you should be fine!!!
04-26-2009, 04:57 PM
I think nolva/clomi would be overkill on a solo Epi cycle, but wouldnt hurt to have on hand.
just get natty test booster, AI like SNS Inhibit E, cort blocker and ure g2g
Serious Nutrition Solutions
04-26-2009, 05:47 PM
Formex should be solid.
PM me with any order questions and concerns
04-26-2009, 06:40 PM
I'm considering going OTC for my upcoming e-stane cycle. Nolva is pretty harsh on the liver mate.
04-28-2009, 12:14 PM
OTC only use Post Cycle Support and Formex
If using a SERM use low dose SERM with Post Cycle Support
04-29-2009, 09:35 AM
04-30-2009, 10:52 AM
05-12-2009, 06:23 PM
Need some opinions here, as well... I'm 1.5 wks into a relatively light epi cycle, running it 20/30/30/30. I want to go otc with my pct for this, and my biggest concern is gyno. I already bought some Formadrol Extreme (got the bogo deal), but keep thinking I might should add some resveratrol or something else. The Formadrol has ellagic acid, but there aren't many reviews on this product. Would Formex compliment this product well? What about Stoked? I'll also be throwing in some DTH, although I only have a little less than half bottle left.
Thanks in advance for any recommendations.
BTW - how long does epi typically take to kick in? I've only noticed some slight strength increases so far, and I'm only up ~2 lbs. My diet is decent - protein shakes, some red meat, turkey, nuts (I'm now addicted to sunflower seeds), protein bars, some carbs like mashed potatoes (not much), green veggies, cheerios - that sums it up.
05-12-2009, 07:50 PM
iforce reversitol and diesel test hardcore. would be the test otc ptc in my op. i know many people that have done a cycle stronger than yours and been great with those. you should feel epi in last 2 weeks
05-12-2009, 07:51 PM
why not up the dosage? run 30/30/40/40?
05-12-2009, 08:10 PM
05-12-2009, 08:12 PM
05-12-2009, 09:47 PM
makes sense i have read that you dont want an ai after epi cycle. but then you would have to run a serm at a low dose to recover
your best option imo is the TRS (total recovery stack) from Primordial Performance. and there offering a 30$ off coupon atm. BEST all natural ptc should have rec that first
05-12-2009, 10:24 PM
Last edited by redfury1977; 05-12-2009 at 10:30 PM. Reason: clarification
05-13-2009, 05:27 AM
Toremifene 90/60/60/30/15/ And final week 15 Every other day worked for me
05-13-2009, 10:17 AM
05-13-2009, 02:51 PM
I've done some more reading, and I see a lot of recs for stacking Formex with PCS or Stoked. For epi, I'm still a bit confused as to why Formex (an AI) is being recommended, though. Does someone have an explanation for this? I was also looking at CEL's PCT Assist, which contains I3C, along with the Resveratrol, and has no AI. I kinda like that combo, as it seems more suited for epi. However, it looks like it might be slightly underdosed? Thanks for the input thus far - still weighing my options, so let's keep the discussion going!!
05-13-2009, 04:18 PM
05-13-2009, 05:24 PM
epi has ai properties tho so thats y you dont want to run an all out ai ptc