IBE Formex vs iForce Reversitol for epi ptc
- 04-16-2009, 04:46 PM
- 04-16-2009, 05:32 PM
Reversitol is a neat product, as it contains numerous things. I have tried it in the past and enjoyed it much more than Novedex XT. Furthermore, I've also tried 6-bromo (Hyperdrol X2) and enjoyed that more than the Reversitol. From my experience, I've concluded that ATD is not my favorite compound... Despite it being extremely effective as an AI, it is an anti androgen and makes me feel like sh*t. Novedex XT is pure ATD, whereas Reversitol is only some ATD, and the Hyperdrol X2 contains no ATD. I'd say: Stay away from ATD, pick up some 6-bromo or try the new Formex (which sounds very promising).
- 04-16-2009, 05:34 PM
As for your Epi cycle... Epi has anti-estrogenic properties. It's controversial to use an AI with it... It may be overkill. Research your gear before deciding on your other supplements.
04-16-2009, 05:45 PM
i have and from reading alot of logs and threads its either light novla which i want to avoid or takeing Reversitol. formex i havent read that much on i was just wondering how effective it is compared to other products.
delita what would you rec for a ptc for epi then since it has anti-e proprieties?
04-16-2009, 06:06 PM
I used herbal test boosters when I pulsed Havoc (Epithio compound). I stacked Stoked and Life Support (both by Anabolic Innovations). I used it all at the same time as my Havoc and continued to use the herbal boosters after my Havoc was gone.
Please note that my Havoc cycle was actually a pulse. I dosed 2-3 caps 2 hours prior to hitting the weights @ 3 times a week. This means I worked out at least a couple more days without Havoc every week. Use the herbal test boosters every day, even when you don't work out.
04-16-2009, 07:29 PM
AI's ALONE has no place in PCT.
But 6-bromo is known to decrease estrogen and alot of blood work were there to prove it, so reveristol ingredients in proven to work. When formex.... well, i still need to see blood work post cycle to know that this stuff works regardless of the reps/company say.
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04-16-2009, 09:07 PM
Anti-androgens do the opposite... You want me to ask God why he made us the way he did?
04-16-2009, 09:39 PM
great copy and paste. Now i know that you don't know what you talking about, just like i thought.
ATD has anti androgenic activity at the hypothalamus, that's why it is a great AI, it reduces estrogen and at the same time tricks the Hypo that there's not enough test.
ATD is an AR antagonist, so it does compete with test on the AR, but in HIGH DOSES and long period of times, using it for 2-3 weeks to kickstart the HPTA again will not lead to any negative effects, done that, been there with great success.. I'd advice you to research other than following what others say, but you'd prolly give me more attitude.
No need to use attitude in a discussion.
04-16-2009, 09:49 PM
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04-16-2009, 10:30 PM
All you did here is:
1.Posting stuff without any reasoning behind it.
3.Posting stuff that yourself is wondering what they mean.
finally, lol @ anti androgen
I'm done arguing with you, i feel like my IQ just dropped.
04-16-2009, 10:45 PM
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04-17-2009, 04:53 PM
All AIs work the same way: Aromatase inhibitors work by inhibiting the action of the enzyme aromatase, which converts androgens into estrogens by a process called aromatization.
It should be noted that each type of AI can have special properties, negative and/or positive. Which is why some AIs are better than the others.
04-17-2009, 09:11 PM
If IBE corrected formestane bioavaibility, this porduct is the best ever made on the market IMO.
I'd do this:
PCS recommened dosage
04-17-2009, 09:33 PM
Update: Logs for Formex do not indicate a strong libido increase, which is what Formestane is known for. The TD application has been known to give a very strong libido increase.
04-18-2009, 03:23 AM
How is Formex doing in those areas for the people who are logging?
04-18-2009, 03:24 AM
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04-18-2009, 05:15 AM
H-drol is mild, and formex works wonders, again if they corrected it's bioavability.
I just answered his question about formex and the dosing, but i would use a SERM and an AI at a low dose with ANY DS.
04-18-2009, 07:22 PM
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