The Perfect PCT

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  1. The Perfect PCT


    Here is what I have created for the idea of two of the best possible PCT's. Doing this will help everyone will keep the most from their gains possible, and have the smoothest transition back into the "natural state", and prevent crashing, as well as quickly repair your lipid panel.

    The more you put into PCT the more you retain. Cut it short and you'll regret it.


    NOTE: Take Formex with your fattiest meal, or with fish oil.

    All of these items can be purchased at Nutraplanet except SERMs (obviously).

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/i...x-60-caps.html

    1) With a SERM:

    Needed: 1 bottle IBE Formex, 1 month supply of a SERM, 1 bottle AI PCS/CS

    (Clomid or Toremifene may be used in place of Tamoxifene)

    Tamoxifene = nolva

    Week 1: Tamoxifene 40mg, IBE Formex 50mg, [Cycle Support]*
    Week 2: Tamoxifene 40mg, IBE Formex 50mg, [Cycle Support]
    Week 3: Tamoxifene 20mg, IBE Formex 25mg, [Cycle Support]
    Week 4: Tamoxifene 20mg, IBE Formex 25mg, [Cycle Support]

    Use CS to help get your lipid panel back in check, or PCS. I like CS in this PCT.

    2) Without a SERM

    Needed: 1 bottles IBE Formex, 1 bottle AI Cycle Support/PCS

    Not everyone can get SERMs. This method is not as good as above, but is still much better than nothing.

    Week 1: IBE Formex 50mg, AI Cycle Support (or PCS)
    Week 2: IBE Formex 50mg, AI Cycle Support (or PCS)
    Week 3: IBE Formex 25mg, AI Cycle Support (or PCS)
    Week 4: IBE Formex 25mg, AI Cycle Support (or PCS)
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  2. I like it. Simple and effective.
    Edit: for lipid control, cycle support will work better than PCS both both are needed IMO.
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  3. Interesting. I think you guys just gave me an idea
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  4. Quote Originally Posted by dg806 View Post
    I like it. Simple and effective.
    Edit: for lipid control, cycle support will work better than PCS both both are needed IMO.
    Thats a good point

    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Interesting. I think you guys just gave me an idea
    Do it
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  5. Do what?
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49
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  6. List cycles this would go good for.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Do what?
    Whatever your idea is lol
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    List cycles this would go good for.
    Any cycle that is hormonal and could suppress your natural testosterone production (steroids, prohormones).
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  9. A serm is used in most all steroid cycles. IMO, PCS is a great product to add to restore test production. Cycle support is used during cycle and after cycles that involve a serm to control chlosterol and lipids. The only other thing I might would consider is something for cort control.

  10. How about option 3. TRS Stack, Formex and Cycle/Life Support?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by rxp1997 View Post
    How about option 3. TRS Stack, Formex and Cycle/Life Support?
    That could def. be an option if you had the money. Just make sure you at least have the Formex + Cycle Support, as those are staples for your PCT, and anything after that is up to you.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post

    Needed: 2 bottles IBE Formex, 1 bottle AI Post Cycle Support

    Not everyone can get SERMs. This method is not as good as above, but is still much better than nothin.

    Week 1: IBE Formex 50mg, AI Post Cycle Support 4caps,
    Week 2: IBE Formex 50mg, AI Post Cycle Support 4caps,
    Week 3: IBE Formex 50mg, AI Post Cycle Support 4caps,
    Week 4: IBE Formex 50mg, AI Post Cycle Support 4caps,
    Week 5: IBE Formex 50mg
    Week 6: IBE Formex 50mg
    Week 7: IBE Formex 50mg
    Week 8: IBE Formex 50mg
    * Run Formex for as long as you want. The longer you can the better. (I will be cruising on 25mg/day year round)
    So if I did this, would i need an anti-cortisol and oxo-6?

  13. You would not need or want to use 6-oxo, and you could use an anti-cort but you dont need one.
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  14. I am running d-bol 30mg a day for 5 weeks. I have nolva that i will take 20mg a day, what else should i be taking along with the nolva for pct?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by bigvalboa View Post
    I am running d-bol 30mg a day for 5 weeks. I have nolva that i will take 20mg a day, what else should i be taking along with the nolva for pct?
    It would be better to do the nolva 40/40/20/20. But I would recommend formex is your PCT doesnt start before it's released, and some cycle support during PCT.
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  16. formex sounds great, wish i could find some, lol.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Minus83 View Post
    formex sounds great, wish i could find some, lol.
    Check your PM's

  18. yes id like to get my hands on some myself. for my pct of my andropen and tren!

  19. from what I have been reading is this can shut u down after 3-4 weeks.. not sure if this is correct but read this on another board.. how can you run it for pct if its going to be opposite of pct's goal??

  20. Quote Originally Posted by liftnainez View Post
    from what I have been reading is this can shut u down after 3-4 weeks.. not sure if this is correct but read this on another board.. how can you run it for pct if its going to be opposite of pct's goal??
    It depends on how much you take. It is the same thing for Testosterone. You can actually take like 150mg of prop/week and not have to worry about being shutdown. However, if you take 500mg/week you're definitely going to shut yourself down. The nice thing about everything I have read on this is it seems to lower estrogen and be just anabolic enough to slowly bring you down in PCT. I never understood why people thought it was a good idea to rapidly come off of things. Best way is to taper gradually and if this has some anabolic properties I am all for it!

    PS- I really would love to log this natty! hint hint lol. Although I did just preorder some .

  21. Quote Originally Posted by liftnainez View Post
    from what I have been reading is this can shut u down after 3-4 weeks.. not sure if this is correct but read this on another board.. how can you run it for pct if its going to be opposite of pct's goal??
    You must have not been reading at a reputable website. Feel free to PM me the link where this was said. I feel like I am beating a dead horse answering this question, but no, it is completely dose dependent. If you follow instructions you wont see suppression, if you take 2x the amount you should, you might.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by BigRon2000 View Post
    It depends on how much you take. It is the same thing for Testosterone. You can actually take like 150mg of prop/week and not have to worry about being shutdown. However, if you take 500mg/week you're definitely going to shut yourself down. The nice thing about everything I have read on this is it seems to lower estrogen and be just anabolic enough to slowly bring you down in PCT. I never understood why people thought it was a good idea to rapidly come off of things. Best way is to taper gradually and if this has some anabolic properties I am all for it!

    PS- I really would love to log this natty! hint hint lol. Although I did just preorder some .
    Yes, the reason it is used in PCT is to provide a gradual taper. You can find log contests on other websites. We already finished the one here, sorry.
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  23. Definitely...


    I am definitely going to try this after my first cycle of Epi that's starting in about a month.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by De Santo View Post
    I am definitely going to try this after my first cycle of Epi that's starting in about a month.
    Nice buddy !

    I plan to run my first Epi cycle in a few months too. Are you picking up the new IBE Formex for PCT ?? That stuff looks sick ! Who doesn't more potent formestane that's more bioavailable

    I might stock up on two bottles to make it last longer.

  25. I'm thinking about throwing this in for my Test. E PCT. Does anyone think that Formex and Toremifine will be sufficient? I really want to stay away from Clomid if I can...

    Oh, and I'm using PCT tabs by IDS also. I love Testofen.

    This may have been discussed before, but I didn't see it...thanks guys.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by bubbachew View Post
    I'm thinking about throwing this in for my Test. E PCT. Does anyone think that Formex and Toremifine will be sufficient? I really want to stay away from Clomid if I can...

    Oh, and I'm using PCT tabs by IDS also. I love Testofen.

    This may have been discussed before, but I didn't see it...thanks guys.
    Toremifine and Formex would make for an awesome stack
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Toremifine and Formex would make for an awesome stack
    Are you guys taking any testers/loggers for this product? Or, probably not for someone using it as an Injectable PCT, right?

  28. Yup, I am going to try the Formex! It's like a great product. Any idea when it will be released? I know we can pre-order, but I was wondering when it will actually be released and mailed?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by De Santo View Post
    Yup, I am going to try the Formex! It's like a great product. Any idea when it will be released? I know we can pre-order, but I was wondering when it will actually be released and mailed?
    Start looking next week
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  30. Not sure if mine is good...I put a post but no one answered my post. I just got off trimethylx ph and I was gonna use toremifene with sustain alpha as my pct. How is that? Also I do have novedex xt laying around unopened...should I use that test booster with the torem and sustain alpha or save it for after pct cycle?
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