Epistane by IBE 1st timer PCT

[johnfaas]

CYCLE :
Epistane By: IBE 10/20/30/30
Cycle Support By: Anabolic Innovations
Sustain Alpha last two weeks 5 pumps 3 days on 3 days off

POST CYCLE :

Days 1-15 : Post Cycle Support By: Anabolic Innovations
Cycle Support By: Anabolic Innovations
Sustain Alpha By: Primordial Performance
NaturalTest booster ( please suggest one )
I3C 200mg 3x day
ZMA

Days 15-30 Post Cycle Support By: Anabolic Innovations
200-300mg 6-OXO
Lean xtreme by Designer Supplements
Cycle Support By: Anabolic Innovations
Sustain Alpha By: Primordial Performance
NaturalTest booster ( please suggest one )
I3C 200mg 3x day
ZMA

Days 30-35 400mg 6-OXO
NaturalTest booster ( please suggest one )
Lean xtreme by Designer Supplements
ZMA

Days 35-45 Taper down the 6-OXO. 300-200mg
NaturalTest booster ( please suggest one )
Lean xtreme by Designer Supplements
ZMA

I just started the third week of the EPI. Feeling good, no sides, nice pumps and dont want to leave the gym ! I have all but a nat.test booster for PCT. Any suggestions welcome.(Keeping the PCT over the counter)

 

[zacklewis]

That's quite a mild cycle you're doing then. Is it worth running the Lean Extreme from day 1 PCT? Incidentally I'm also in week 3 of epistane 30/40/40/40/50/60 - No sides so far myself either.

 

[crazyfool405]

TBH thats way over kill

PCS and DTHC with Lean FX for PCT and your set,

Thanks for choosing AI though

 

[johnfaas]

TBH thats way over kill

PCS and DTHC with Lean FX for PCT and your set,

Thanks for choosing AI though

My first run on a anabolic ,so I wanted to test the waters. What is DTHC ? You don"t think I need the 6 OXO ?

 

[crazyfool405]

My first run on a anabolic ,so I wanted to test the waters. What is DTHC ? You don"t think I need the 6 OXO ?

Dthc is diesel test hardcore use trione by nutra planet instead its the same as 6oxo but cheaper. PCS and trione would be good aswell

 

[johnfaas]

That's quite a mild cycle you're doing then. Is it worth running the Lean Extreme from day 1 PCT? Incidentally I'm also in week 3 of epistane 30/40/40/40/50/60 - No sides so far myself either.

what is your pct ?

 

[zacklewis]

Erm at the moment it's toremifene 90/60/60/30 , Reduce XT, Primal Male and Stoked on weeks 3-6.

 

[johnfaas]

TBH thats way over kill

PCS and DTHC with Lean FX for PCT and your set,

Thanks for choosing AI though

Working with this list how would you set up PCT I have all on hand ?:

Post Cycle Support (120 Capsules )AI
Cycle Support (60 Servings)AI
ZMA (180 caps)
2 X Lean FX (90 Capsules)
2 X Diesel Test Hardcore (120 tabs)
6-OXO (180 Capsules)
2 X Sustain Alpha
ZMA

 

[crazyfool405]

Pcs and dthc. Save 6 oxo. For anothe cycle

 

[johnfaas]

Halfway into the third week no sides at all would you suggest going from original plan
Epistane By: IBE 10/20/30/30
to 10/20/30/40

If so any change on PCT ?

 

[zacklewis]

I've just finished week 3 second week on 40, personally if I were you I would bump the dose yes.

 

[johnfaas]

Halfway into the third week no sides at all would you suggest going from original plan
Epistane By: IBE 10/20/30/30
to 10/20/30/40

If so any change on PCT ?

bump?

 

[zacklewis]

If you've had no side effects I would increase the dose to 40, I wouldn't think this changes your PCT.

 

[johnfaas]

If you've had no side effects I would increase the dose to 40, I wouldn't think this changes your PCT.

How did you spread out the dose ? (per day)

 

[zacklewis]

These are some examples from the Havoc write up someone did -

Havoc(20mg/day):

1st Dose(10mg): 8-10am
2nd Dose(10mg): 4-6pm

Havoc(30mg/day):

1st Dose(10mg): 8-10am OR 1st Dose(20mg): 8-10am(Pre-Workout Dose)
2nd Dose(10mg): 2-3pm 2nd Dose(10mg): 4-6pm
3rd Dose(10mg): 6-8pm

Havoc(40mg/day):

1st Dose(20mg): 8-10am(Pre-Workout Dose)
2nd Dose(10mg): 2-3pm
3rd Dose(10mg): 6-8pm

Havoc(50mg/day):

1st Dose(20mg): 8-10am(Pre-Workout Dose)
2nd Dose(20mg): 2-3pm
3rd Dose(10mg): 6-8pm

 

[johnfaas]

am going to be going to start my PCT next week and was wondering if you would ad to it .

EPI. 10/20/30/30 (middle of 4th week no sides)
cycle support (during bolth cycle and post )

POST :
Days 1-15; Sustain Alpha, Diesel Test HC and PCS


Days 15-30; Sustain Alpha, Diesel Test HC, 200mg 6-OXO and Lean FX


Week 5; Diesel Test HC, 300mg 6-OXO, lean fx


Week 6; Diesel Test HC, 200mg 6-OXO.

Week 7; Diesel Test HC 100mg 6-OXO.

Week 8 Diesel Test HC 100mg 6-OXO


I can get some :

Tamox 50ml True Twenty
or
Clomi 70ml 35mg/ml

Should I, Why and how to dose ?

 

[johnfaas]

They also have :
Post Cycle Gains Keeper
1 liquid Ketotifen (30 ML)
1 Tamoxifen (50ml 20mg/m)
1 Albuterol Sulfate (30 ML's 4 MG/ML)

Any good ?

 

[SoCalSMP]

Will Be Running my first cycle (ever) of Epistane.

i have been lifting for around 4 years (sports) and have only taken GNC products, such as N02, Whey, etc.

Now i'm mov'n on up....

i've done quite a bit of research as well as friends who have used it with good results.

so here's the plan:

Epistane 20/20/30/40 or 20/30/30/40, i haven't decided.

Preload:
1 week of Cycle Assist

On-Cycle Supplements:

-Taurine (10mg) 5mg pre and 5mg post workout
-Supper Cissus
-Cycle Assist
-Fish Oil 3 at breakfast, 3 at lunch, 3 at dinner
-Whey Protein

Post-Cycle (PCT)
Torefemine 120/90/60/30

Working Out 6x per week
Cardio 3x Per week (short and intense, about 20-25 min)
3 sets of 6-8 reps

All on a clean diet, High Protein.

I have everything now, and as i said, will begin my preload tomarrow; duration 1 week, then i start my cycle.

I Will Track My Progress, as well as any sides (Pray that there are none)


Any questions, concerns, and especially advice.........