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    On my PCT - No Semen - Help


    This is my 2nd week of PCT, below is my current PCT plan.

    PCT Details:
    Week1:
    Torem 90mg PM [Begin]
    AI Post Cycle Support 2caps AM, PM [Begin]

    Week2:
    Torem 60mg @ PM
    AI Post Cycle Support @ 2caps AM, PM

    Week3:
    Torem 30mg @ PM [End]
    AI Post Cycle Support @ 2caps AM, PM [End]
    LX 1cap AM, Noon, PM [Begin]
    EG 6OXO 500mg Anytime of day [Begin]

    Week4:
    LX 1cap AM, Noon, PM
    EG 6OXO 400mg Anytime of day

    Week5:
    LX 1cap AM, Noon, PM [End]
    EG 6OXO 300mg Anytime of day [End]


    PART 1:
    I noticed monday/tuesday, that my loads have no semen in them (or just trace amounts)... I am mildly concerned, as the torem should have been putting me into semen production mode by now, I would think...

    Has anyone had similar experience during post cycle? This is my first cycle/post-cycle, so this may be fairly typical I'm not sure. Perhaps I got bunk torem? I ordered it from IR, I was informed that they are fairly reputable.


    PART2:
    Well, due to an unforseen circumstance, I have been without my bottle of Torem since tuesday and won't have it back until friday/tomorrow. I'm not sure how major of a problem this is, but I intend to just restart my torem dosing as soon as I get it back. I'll probably up the doseage for a few days or maybe even just start the doseage all over again (90/60/30)

    Can anyone comment on the potential implications (problems, stuff to be aware of) of having a 4 day stretch without SERM this early in my PCT?

    If I extend my dosing period for Torem, should I also start taking the 6OXO a week later, or should I start it up as initially planned (week3).


    Thanks in advance to all serious and honest offers of aid!

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    Sucks to not have your SERM with you..
    Implications??
    Depends on what you ran, and how shut down you are, sounds like your pretty shut down too.
    Hopefully one of the really smart guys will advise you on this. I'll just wish you the best of luck and let one of them advise you.
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    You don't even have to use a SERM so four days without will have no effect whatsoever. As far as your loads are concerned, try Clomid instead.
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    I never had that issue full blown, but my production kinda dwindled a bit, so I started taking powerfull and eating loads of celery and that got me back up above normal, and it only took about 1 week to kick in. Also if your releasing daily, you might want to try and skip a day and see what happens. Just my .02
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cub View Post
    You don't even have to use a SERM so four days without will have no effect whatsoever. As far as your loads are concerned, try Clomid instead.
    He ran the old SD like this.
    day 1-5 @10mgs
    day 6-7 @ 20mgs
    weeks 2-4 @ 20mgs

    Wouldn't most guys say he would HAVE to run a SERM after that cycle with the old SD?
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    Quote Originally Posted by swankinrosco View Post
    PART 1:
    I noticed monday/tuesday, that my loads have no semen in them (or just trace amounts)... I am mildly concerned, as the torem should have been putting me into semen production mode by now, I would think...

    Has anyone had similar experience during post cycle? This is my first cycle/post-cycle, so this may be fairly typical I'm not sure. Perhaps I got bunk torem? I ordered it from IR, I was informed that they are fairly reputable.
    Bro, you prolly got way more shut down than you think you did.
    On a diff note. I'd like to hear about any sides you had at the end of your cycle. Lethargic, and back pumps or calf pumps if you tried to run? How'd your appetite hold up? How was your gains by the end of week 4.
    I'm curious, thanks.
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    Most SERMs have very long half-lives, so, you just might make it out of this one alive!

    Now, about your sea people problem; it is possible that Clomid is the answer.
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    horny goat week seems to be the answer. i would go with Paravol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND View Post
    Most SERMs have very long half-lives, so, you just might make it out of this one alive!

    Now, about your sea people problem; it is possible that Clomid is the answer.

    can anyone explain why clomid will work but not torem?

    if they come back eventually using torem, then i won't get clomid. but if it must have clomid to get my semen back then ****'n a i need to know so i can order it.

    by the way i do still have ejaculate, it's just mostly light fluid no thick man-yolk in there.

    as for the cycle it was awesome, had back pumps once and mild lethargy half way through week 3. i would skip week 4 next time, i didn't get much from it.

    overall put on 8-12 lbs muscle, lost 3-6 lbs fat.


    ps- got the torem back today, going to be dosing it all over again at 90... we'll see what happens.
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    You don't ever want to "increase your dosage" of SERMS if you miss some. This is not only useless (as more is not better) but is an invitation to more side effects.

    Just resume your normal dosage ASAP.
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    I agree start taking the SERM again when you get it at regular doses. Some of the suggestions to help with the sea monkey problems are good ones. Good luck bro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
    I agree start taking the SERM again when you get it at regular doses. Some of the suggestions to help with the sea monkey problems are good ones. Good luck bro.


    will the monkeys just take longer to come back without clomid/HGW? or will they not come back at all.

    this is my concern
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    Quote Originally Posted by swankinrosco View Post
    will the monkeys just take longer to come back without clomid/HGW? or will they not come back at all.

    this is my concern
    do you want to risk it for $30?

    And from personal experience, I doubt anything from were you got it is bunk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orangepeel View Post
    do you want to risk it for $30?

    And from personal experience, I doubt anything from were you got it is bunk.

    how should i dose the clomid then once i get it? should i take both?
    will it interfere with my torem dosing? should i stop using the torem and switch out to clomid?

    aah.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swankinrosco View Post
    how should i dose the clomid then once i get it? should i take both?
    will it interfere with my torem dosing? should i stop using the torem and switch out to clomid?

    aah.
    Clomid only. 50mg per day for a couple of weeks.
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    It probally will come back but may take alot longer.
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