Which Anti-cort for havoc PCT? DS Lean Xtreme, IBE X-Lean, or AX Lean FX

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    Which Anti-cort for havoc PCT? DS Lean Xtreme, IBE X-Lean, or AX Lean FX


    Im about to start my pct in about 5 days (i know should have bought these earlier) but ill get rushed shipping - anyways

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    Anti-cort (which one?)

    and all supporting sups
    multi-vit
    Fish oils Flax etc(3-4g)
    Creatine mono 5g
    Protein

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    17-b-triol in AX Lean FX seems to be the most potent of the anti-corts. I personally like DS Lean Xtreme, but I have used 17b-triol in the past with good success. These are DHEA derivatives, with 17b-triol seeming to be the strongest of the metabolites.
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    thanks for the advice bud ! sounds good ill probably go w/ whichone is cheaper
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    why use anti cort/ after havoc cycle and what else would you recomend besides that and a serm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by preacherman View Post
    why use anti cort/ after havoc cycle and what else would you recomend besides that and a serm?
    You use an anti-cort because cortisol uses the muscles as energy, so basically puts you at a catabolic state, by using the anti-cort you stop that from happening which enables you to keep your gains

    What im doing is using

    Diesel Test Hardcore
    Anti-cort
    Creatine
    Post Cycle Support
    Cycle Support (whats left from the cycle not much)
    Omega3 oils
    Protein
    Cissus/Joint support

    Im not using a serm cause I don't feel like dealing w/ the legalities of it, otherwise I might as well have used injectable steroids, people have had good results w/ pct like the one above though by what i've read
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    Quote Originally Posted by omegax View Post
    You use an anti-cort because cortisol uses the muscles as energy, so basically puts you at a catabolic state, by using the anti-cort you stop that from happening which enables you to keep your gains

    What im doing is using

    Diesel Test Hardcore
    Anti-cort
    Creatine
    Post Cycle Support
    Cycle Support (whats left from the cycle not much)
    Omega3 oils
    Protein
    Cissus/Joint support

    Im not using a serm cause I don't feel like dealing w/ the legalities of it, otherwise I might as well have used injectable steroids, people have had good results w/ pct like the one above though by what i've read
    What are you going to be dosing the DTHC like? and which week will you be starting on the PCS?

    Running the Anti-cort frfom day 1 of pct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chub View Post
    What are you going to be dosing the DTHC like? and which week will you be starting on the PCS?

    Running the Anti-cort frfom day 1 of pct?
    Im following the dosing on the bottle of DTHC and yea im running the anti-cort from day 1 until it runs out (i think its like 30 days worth?)
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    cortisol products should be run starting the 3rd week of pct for the length of the supply.
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    I understand the need for cort control in PCT, but here's my question: aren't the products mentioned suppressive? They're all DHEA derivatives, as someone mentioned, ie hormonal. The #1 thing in PCT is to restore natural test, so won't these products be counter-productive?

    Or is that why you wait until week 3 to start? If that's the case, then that leads to this question - when does cortisol spike post-cycle? I always thought it was an issue right away.

    Anyone know the answers to these?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
    I understand the need for cort control in PCT, but here's my question: aren't the products mentioned suppressive? They're all DHEA derivatives, as someone mentioned, ie hormonal. The #1 thing in PCT is to restore natural test, so won't these products be counter-productive?

    Or is that why you wait until week 3 to start? If that's the case, then that leads to this question - when does cortisol spike post-cycle? I always thought it was an issue right away.

    Anyone know the answers to these?
    Thats debatable... I would use EndoAmp for month one and LX for month 2 ect... I run long pct's for long cycles... thats just me
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    Quote Originally Posted by justreading View Post
    Thats debatable... I would use EndoAmp for month one and LX for month 2 ect... I run long pct's for long cycles... thats just me
    Do you feel like the various anti-cortisol products work @ recommended dosage, or do you up the dosage ? [wondering about cost-efficiency in the end . . .]
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