PCT final decision!

  1. Exclamation PCT final decision!


    I think I'm going crazy!! lol. I'm prepping a PCT for a "high" dosed h-drol & propadrol cycle, and i'm going nuts on making a decision. *back and forth, back and forth*...lol. my brain hurts from reading so many damn product descriptions, logs etc. as;dlfjdsl!! wouldn't it be nice if there were one super duper way to do it? haha.

    anyhow...

    I already have torem as a "base" ...but what, if anything do i need to couple with it? i would like to GAIN during PCT if it is at all possible. or at a bare minimum not lose a fraction of a pound! some people say just use a cortisol blocker and that's all i need...some people say use a test booster (stoked/dieseltest) and no need for cortisol blocker... etc. etc.

    what is your opinion on the "strongest" PCT? (without turning my cabinet into a pharmacy lol.)


  2. i know it's 1 a.m., but ...bump.

  3. what about running formestane with Torm instead of PCS with torm? ...does it need to be transdermal?
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    I think I'm going crazy!! lol. I'm prepping a PCT for a "high" dosed h-drol & propadrol cycle, and i'm going nuts on making a decision. *back and forth, back and forth*...lol. my brain hurts from reading so many damn product descriptions, logs etc. as;dlfjdsl!! wouldn't it be nice if there were one super duper way to do it? haha.

    anyhow...

    I already have torem as a "base" ...but what, if anything do i need to couple with it? i would like to GAIN during PCT if it is at all possible. or at a bare minimum not lose a fraction of a pound! some people say just use a cortisol blocker and that's all i need...some people say use a test booster (stoked/dieseltest) and no need for cortisol blocker... etc. etc.

    what is your opinion on the "strongest" PCT? (without turning my cabinet into a pharmacy lol.)
    I feel ya man, im doing the same exact thing. Trying to find the best pct for M-Drol cycle. I think imma just get on one of these sites and start looking them up and find the best one and buy it. Thats what my buddy did and hes just fine and kept all his gains from his PH cycle.

  5. the best PCT i ever ran was tormifene 90, 60, 30, 30 the transdermal 6oxo the last week of PCT till u run out (should last roughly 6 weeks). The 6oxo will get you making gains again.

  6. You've already got Torem, so Clomid would be another good option. Some of the OTC PCT stuff will work for a mild cycle. But I can speak from experience and the SERMs help you alot faster. If you have a SERM everything else is just helping out alittle more.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by joeymutz View Post
    the best PCT i ever ran was tormifene 90, 60, 30, 30 the transdermal 6oxo the last week of PCT till u run out (should last roughly 6 weeks). The 6oxo will get you making gains again.
    I ALMOST did the 6-oxo thing, but there is so much debate on dosing, when to start it, etc. that i opted out this time...

    On top of the torem, I just broke down and had to pick something lol. So i got "Reversitol." It's basically "Post Cycle Support" (aka Stoked) with an AI. I'm thinkin of starting in like 2nd or third week of PCT...

    Sound decent to you?

  8. Torem. + reversitol + a test booster (you could even use alpha drive.)

  9. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    I think I'm going crazy!! lol. I'm prepping a PCT for a "high" dosed h-drol & propadrol cycle, and i'm going nuts on making a decision. *back and forth, back and forth*...lol. my brain hurts from reading so many damn product descriptions, logs etc. as;dlfjdsl!! wouldn't it be nice if there were one super duper way to do it? haha.

    anyhow...

    I already have torem as a "base" ...but what, if anything do i need to couple with it? i would like to GAIN during PCT if it is at all possible. or at a bare minimum not lose a fraction of a pound! some people say just use a cortisol blocker and that's all i need...some people say use a test booster (stoked/dieseltest) and no need for cortisol blocker... etc. etc.

    what is your opinion on the "strongest" PCT? (without turning my cabinet into a pharmacy lol.)
    H=Drol and Propadrol? Propadrol, why? well if your dead set on it, ok. 1st, for the progestin, pick up some P5P to combat those issues. as far as PCT goes, Prop is not methyl, and HDrol is mild, depending on the dose you are going to run it at, what is that dose by the way? if your keeping it under 100mgs ED then something like AI's post cycle therapy should be fine, most people suggest an OTC route for Hdrol http://www.otcpct.com. i personally, no matter how "mild" a compound is, like to have a SERM on hand, just in case.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Bravoboy View Post
    Torem. + reversitol + a test booster (you could even use alpha drive.)
    I almost picked up alpha drive. dont' know why i didn't, even if i wasn't gonna use it this PCT. It's only $10, lol! Hopefully I survive with Torem + Reversitol. I'm gonna do something like EndoAmp or another cortisol controller in week three for four too...

  11. Quote Originally Posted by lennoxchi View Post
    H=Drol and Propadrol? Propadrol, why? well if your dead set on it, ok. 1st, for the progestin, pick up some P5P to combat those issues. as far as PCT goes, Prop is not methyl, and HDrol is mild, depending on the dose you are going to run it at, what is that dose by the way? if your keeping it under 100mgs ED then something like AI's post cycle therapy should be fine, most people suggest an OTC route for Hdrol http://www.otcpct.com. i personally, no matter how "mild" a compound is, like to have a SERM on hand, just in case.

    to be honest, because it was mild, and i had originally had hemadrol by EST, who markets propadrol as agood stack with hemadrol. Why don't you like propadrol? most people don't think it really does much, but i had some pretty strong strength gains early on in my cycle...which are probably atributed to the propadrol.

    what is this p5p? something i should be running on cycle?

  12. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    I almost picked up alpha drive. dont' know why i didn't, even if i wasn't gonna use it this PCT. It's only $10, lol! Hopefully I survive with Torem + Reversitol. I'm gonna do something like EndoAmp or another cortisol controller in week three for four too...

    dont use ALPHA drive, it has ADED (6-DMT) in it. stay away from that for PCT

    torem + Reversitol + cort blocker = SET

  13. P5P is used to help combat prolactin. but if you take a b complex you should be fine, althoughh P5P you can take more of because its not as toxic as b6. i dont think its something you need to worry about. but if prolactin comes up Ldopa and P5P are readily available and cheap.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    dont use ALPHA drive, it has ADED (6-DMT) in it. stay away from that for PCT

    torem + Reversitol + cort blocker = SET

    yah i read about the ADED. Some said the amount was minimal, others disagreed. Although the price was tempting, I played it conservative .

  15. Quote Originally Posted by eballarj View Post
    I ALMOST did the 6-oxo thing, but there is so much debate on dosing, when to start it, etc. that i opted out this time...

    On top of the torem, I just broke down and had to pick something lol. So i got "Reversitol." It's basically "Post Cycle Support" (aka Stoked) with an AI. I'm thinkin of starting in like 2nd or third week of PCT...

    Sound decent to you?
    Your correct Resversitol has 2 AI's in it and both Post Cycle Support and Resversitol have Trans-Resveratrol but only the Post Cycle Support has Quercetin which helps greatly with the bioavailibilty.
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  16. For a high dosed H-drol and Propadrol cycle I would do low dosed Nolva 20/20/10/10 and Post Cycle Support 2 caps a.m. and 2 caps p.m.
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