PCT for 10 week test E cycle
- 10-13-2008, 06:59 PM
PCT for 10 week test E cycle
Me and a buddy are about to do our first cycles. After some research I'm wondering if this would be good for us to follow. I'll be posting a log after I get started.
Week 1-10 500mgs Test E (250 monday, 250 thursday)
Week 1-10 .25mg ED Arimidex
Week 2-10 250IUs of hCG twice a week
Week 11-14 Nolvadex @ 40mg ED for the first 2 weeks, 20mg ED for the second 2. Maybe continue at 20mg for a week or two longer if need be.
What do you guys think?
- 10-13-2008, 08:12 PM
PCT- i think clomid is much better, but if you have nolva, run it 20/20/20/20 and get aromasin and run it 10mg ED
and pct i think would be best 7 days after last shot
10-13-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm talking to my hookup right now and he says that he doesn't think the adex is necessary, but i should keep a little on hand.
I've heard nolva is superior to clomid, so why the clomid? The aromasin would be started as soon as nolva starts?
10-13-2008, 08:31 PM
ive used both nolva and clomid and i honestly gotta say nolva didnt work as well as clomid did. and yes aromasin start when nolva starts.
adex is nesecary because you going over your bodys physiological amount of test, there will be aromatization, and high estrogen will cause bloat and gyno, .5 mg EOD
10-13-2008, 08:34 PM
10-13-2008, 08:39 PM
10-13-2008, 11:59 PM
After talking to the guy about what he can get me and taking into account what you've said...
Week 1-10 500mgs test E (250 twice a week)
Week 1-10 letro 1mg E3D
Week 2-11 250UIs of hCG x2 a week
Week 11-14 20mg nolva ED
10-14-2008, 12:01 AM
10-15-2008, 05:12 AM
Test E's half life is 2-3 weeks, so you have to start Nolva on week 13 (and continue HCG until week 12).
I would do Nolva at 40 mg on the 1st week, 30 on the 2nd, 30 the third then 10 the fourth.
10-15-2008, 07:48 AM
10-15-2008, 08:04 AM
10-15-2008, 08:05 AM
10-15-2008, 10:50 AM
10-15-2008, 10:53 AM
thats why i reccommend it that way.
10-15-2008, 10:58 AM
now look at it this way
test E 500mg per week 1-12
clearence weeks are week 13 and 14, and pct starts week 15? my math right?
youl be on hCG starting week 14 and continuing into week 15. after your last shot of hCG you start clomid 100/50/50/50 and ADEX ran through out the whole pct including during hCG to prevent the negative feed back loop that estradiol plays a role in. this will also help with the desensitation of the pituitary from the clomid, and the desensitation to the testis from the hCG which estrogen plays a huge role in.
am i outlining it in a way that you understand it? or is my thinking still confusing to you and i need to rewrite it a different way?
sometimes when i type i think to fast and either not get it all out on paper, or i dont make sense. so just let me know,
10-15-2008, 01:10 PM
10-15-2008, 01:17 PM
Keep some adex or letro on hand in case something unexpected pops up. (Letro is a lot more powerfull.)
If you want to run test, that means you will have to get some bloating and water retention. If you don't want that, then use something else. I mean, it's like taking a beer with .5 alcohool and expect to have the same buzz as 5%.. This is nonsense buddy. Not only it's more expensive, but it's just useless.
Run some dry compounds that don't aromatize if you don't want to risk it. Gains will be smaller (of course) but it will be dry mass gains.
This is the way I see it.. Ask around if you want you'll see.
10-15-2008, 01:19 PM
ADEX ran through out the whole pct including during hCG to prevent the negative feed back loop that estradiol plays a role in. this will also help with the desensitation of the pituitary from the clomid, and the desensitation to the testis from the hCG which estrogen plays a huge role
what i mean is estrogen sensitizes the testis and the pituitary. so when you take an AI that lowers estradiol concurrently it will prevent/minimize some of the desensitation you get
that better? in not very good with words
10-15-2008, 01:21 PM
10-15-2008, 01:24 PM
10-15-2008, 01:26 PM
10-15-2008, 01:37 PM
hCG can desensitze the bodys ability to Produce LH , this is prevented by the use of an AI
and then clomid which supposedly desensitizes the bodys ability of GnRH to increase LH pulses or something to that effect,
so estrogen if controlled wouldnt have that much of the seen effect with clomid or hCG
ok i think i wrote it right, but i did contradict myself in that above statement, im at school and trying to type **** fast.
10-15-2008, 03:34 PM
10-15-2008, 03:36 PM
10-15-2008, 05:17 PM
Yes but there is no point in doing so. It's like pulling your foot a little bit from the gas on your race car. You will still go, but slower.
10-15-2008, 06:54 PM
10-15-2008, 09:52 PM
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