I just need a simple PCT for EPI/Havoc....

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This is from a log and is way to much of a hassle, not too mention an expense.........


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Epistane/Cissus/Poseidon/Mass Fx/Powerfull/Toremifene/HDX2/CEE/AEE/CitMalate

120mg(10mg 2x 5days)/30mg(10mg morn/20mg p.w.o 2days)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)
230mg(10mg am/10mg pwo/10mg pm for 3 days)40mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o for 4 days)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)
340mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)
440mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)/2 caps(530mg 2x for 5 days)/4 caps(spread out for 3 days)/120mg (LAST DAY ONLY)
5120mg(1days)/90mg(5days)/75mg(1day)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
675mg(5days)/60mg(2days)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
760mg/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
830mg(till it was out, like 3 days)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x until out)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o


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and this is from otcpctdotcom.........

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The following is an Over The Counter PCT for Epistane.


Weeks 1 - 2

POST Cycle Support 2 capsules in AM, 2 Capsules in PM with or without food.

Cycle Support 1 scoop per day OR Life Support 2 capsules in AM, 2 capsules in PM

I3C (Indole-3-Carbinol) 200 mg 3 times per day



Weeks 3 - 4

POST Cycle Support 2 Capsules in AM, 2 Capsules in PM.

I3C (Indole-3-Carbinol) 200mg 3 times per day

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..........much simpler and fairly inexpensive, but is that enough?

The more I search the more confused I get, so any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!



31, 6'3", 225, lifting a few years.....
 
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Epistane/Cissus/Poseidon/Mass Fx/Powerfull/Toremifene/HDX2/CEE/AEE/CitMalate

120mg(10mg 2x 5days)/30mg(10mg morn/20mg p.w.o 2days)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)
230mg(10mg am/10mg pwo/10mg pm for 3 days)40mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o for 4 days)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)
340mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)
440mg (10mg am/10 mg aft/10mg pre&post w/o)/3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/20g(5g 4x ed)/2 caps(530mg 2x for 5 days)/4 caps(spread out for 3 days)/120mg (LAST DAY ONLY)
5120mg(1days)/90mg(5days)/75mg(1day)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
675mg(5days)/60mg(2days)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
760mg/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x ed)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o
830mg(till it was out, like 3 days)/4 caps(spread out)/4 caps(530mg 4x until out)/3960mg(1320mg 3x ed)/
3600mg(1800mg 2x ed)/2gea. respectively before w/o drink and 5g crea mono after w/o


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and this is from otcpctdotcom.........

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The following is an Over The Counter PCT for Epistane.


Weeks 1 - 2

POST Cycle Support 2 capsules in AM, 2 Capsules in PM with or without food.

Cycle Support 1 scoop per day OR Life Support 2 capsules in AM, 2 capsules in PM

I3C (Indole-3-Carbinol) 200 mg 3 times per day



Weeks 3 - 4

POST Cycle Support 2 Capsules in AM, 2 Capsules in PM.

I3C (Indole-3-Carbinol) 200mg 3 times per day

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..........much simpler and fairly inexpensive, but is that enough?

The more I search the more confused I get, so any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!!



31, 6'3", 225, lifting a few years.....


First of all....to start...very few Ph PCT's are simple....as a matter of fact none are.

They are(or should be) based upon the individual user and the PH that he/she is running.

That being said....start with the basics:

1) CS by A.I. throughout cycle and PCT(preload at least 10 to 14 days)

2) Support supps(liver,heart[BP],joint)

3) PCS by A.I.and an AI or something like Reversitrol by I-Force Nutrition


If you a running a straight cycle then a serm is highly recommended!!!!!



I personally feel these supps are a must(bare minimum) to incorporate into your cycle.

The rest will help to add increased estro-control or test boosting to your cycle as well as avoid some extra unwanted sides.
 
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I am doing OTC PCT:

week 1: PCS, Sustain (5 day free sample)
week 2: PCS, ActivateX, Hyperdrol
week 3: PCS, ActivateX, HD, LeanX
week 4: PCS, ActivateX, HD, LeanX

I will also be including IGF-2, Neovar . . . and maybe Prime. Hopefully these will keep the gains coming!
 
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I am doing OTC PCT:

week 1: PCS, Sustain (5 day free sample)
week 2: PCS, ActivateX, Hyperdrol
week 3: PCS, ActivateX, HD, LeanX
week 4: PCS, ActivateX, HD, LeanX

I will also be including IGF-2, Neovar . . . and maybe Prime. Hopefully these will keep the gains coming!

I would feel alot better if you had the SERM that along with the Post Cycle Support would be very good for a epi/havoc pct IMO
 
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I will never ever take Epi again or recommend anyone to take it without a SERM. I know so many people who've had gyno rebound from Epi, they also had a crap non SERM based PCT.
 
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I will never ever take Epi again or recommend anyone to take it without a SERM. I know so many people who've had gyno rebound from Epi, they also had a crap non SERM based PCT.

Low dosed Nolva and Post Cycle Support works well for Epi pct.
 

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