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MuscleHeadGuy

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I've told my buddy where to go (AM), but decided that it'd be best to make a post in which we can receive plenty of opinions.

The cycle that's going to be run is 8 weeks of Sustanon 250. 500mg are going to be injected at the start of week 1, then 250mg at the start of each week thereafter.

Clomid is said to help prevent hypogonadism if taken every other day throughout the cycle @ 50mg, 1 tablet. So, 30 tablets are going to be purchased since the cycle is 60 days long and you only take the Clomid every other day while on cycle.

When exactly should PCT start? Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) is on-hand for PCT. That will be started immediately after the cycle ends, along with Post Cycle Support, Diesel Test Hardcore, etc.

Any other input would be greatly appreciated. I care about those around me and like to make sure that people do things responsibly, and I know there are plenty of members here with experience and knew we could count on all of you for your help.
 
MuscleHeadGuy said:
I've told my buddy where to go (AM), but decided that it'd be best to make a post in which we can receive plenty of opinions.

The cycle that's going to be run is 8 weeks of Sustanon 250. 500mg are going to be injected at the start of week 1, then 250mg at the start of each week thereafter.

Clomid is said to help prevent hypogonadism if taken every other day throughout the cycle @ 50mg, 1 tablet. So, 30 tablets are going to be purchased since the cycle is 60 days long and you only take the Clomid every other day while on cycle.

When exactly should PCT start? Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) is on-hand for PCT. That will be started immediately after the cycle ends, along with Post Cycle Support, Diesel Test Hardcore, etc.

Any other input would be greatly appreciated. I care about those around me and like to make sure that people do things responsibly, and I know there are plenty of members here with experience and knew we could count on all of you for your help.
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clomid Post cycle, along with PCS and DTHC.

no need to front load just do 500mg per week 250mg 2x per week.

its hard to determin exactly when to start pct because its a mix of test, 7 days i think would be a safe bet.
 
crazyfool405 said:
clomid Post cycle, along with PCS and DTHC.

no need to front load just do 500mg per week 250mg 2x per week.

its hard to determin exactly when to start pct because its a mix of test, 7 days i think would be a safe bet.
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So, wait about 7 days after the cycle ends (end of week 8) and then start PCT?

Would it help to use the Nolvadex while on cycle to help fight hypogonadism? That was the reason for purchasing the Clomid, but hear both are just as beneficial but the Nolva is slightly stronger. He'd really like to prevent the testest from shrinking as much as possible while on cycle.

If 500mg of Sustanon is going to be injected 2 x's per week, then when should it be injected? I guess what we're asking here is, how long should he wait in between the injections?
 
MuscleHeadGuy said:
So, wait about 7 days after the cycle ends (end of week 8) and then start PCT?

Would it help to use the Nolvadex while on cycle to help fight hypogonadism? That was the reason for purchasing the Clomid, but hear both are just as beneficial but the Nolva is slightly stronger. He'd really like to prevent the testest from shrinking as much as possible while on cycle.

If 500mg of Sustanon is going to be injected 2 x's per week, then when should it be injected? I guess what we're asking here is, how long should he wait in between the injections?
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use Arimidex. your not fighing hypogonadism while you staying shut down.

nolva is stronger, but clomid is better.

monday and thursday injections
 
crazyfool405 said:
use Arimidex. your not fighing hypogonadism while you staying shut down.

nolva is stronger, but clomid is better.

monday and thursday injections
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Will the testes most likely shrink while on cycle or during the time PCT is being used if it's ignored or not used properly?

Clomid will be used during PCT.

You're suggesting Arimidex while on cycle, correct? How should it be dosed: how many mg and how often?

Thanks for the help so far. You're straight to the point and we really appreciate it.
 
MuscleHeadGuy said:
Will the testes most likely shrink while on cycle or during the time PCT is being used if it's ignored or not used properly? they will shrink on cycle, and get back to normal post cycle.

Clomid will be used during PCT. GOOD

You're suggesting Arimidex while on cycle, correct? How should it be dosed: how many mg and how often?.5mg every other day

Thanks for the help so far. You're straight to the point and we really appreciate it.
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I've seen discussions talking about using HCG a week after each Sustanon injection, and using Clomid and/or Nolva during PCT. What are your thoughts on this?

We're wanting to minimize the chances of testicular atrophy as much as possible. Also, we don't want to experience any gyno.

Thanks again for the help. We just wanna have everything figured out before giving the go-ahead.
 
If you don't want them to shrink, get yourself some HCG. Normally its used for longer cycles, but if your worried about it, it certainly won't hurt. Start it week 2. 250iu's 2x a week. Stop using it your last sust. inject.
 
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Just saw this! Thank you.

How much testicular atrophy are we talking here? Or, does it depend on the individual? Also, how long into PCT will it take for the testes to return to their normal state? Will testicular atrophy have any effect on one's libido? Should a sexual performance aid be used during times of intercourse while on cycle, or should the libido not be affected if the on-cycle and PCT arsenal are used correctly?
 
Would it be possible to do this:

(2) Sustanon 250 injections per week, 500mg split into (2) injections of 250mg on Monday and Thursday.

Using HCG at the end of Week 2 until the last injection during Week 8.

Using Clomid/Nolvadex/Proviron (Please help us choose one) while on cycle.

Whatever is chosen above for use while on, what should we choose out of the remaining 2 for PCT?

The main purpose of the Proviron, obviously, would be to help increase sex drive, keeping one feel positive, feelings of vigor, etc.

I definitely would like to continue achieving an erection and having intercourse while on cycle.

Thanks again, guys!
 
MuscleHeadGuy said:
I've seen discussions talking about using HCG a week after each Sustanon injection, and using Clomid and/or Nolva during PCT. What are your thoughts on this?

We're wanting to minimize the chances of testicular atrophy as much as possible. Also, we don't want to experience any gyno.

Thanks again for the help. We just wanna have everything figured out before giving the go-ahead.
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adex will help with gyno, i dont think hCG is needed on this short of a cycle (especially during). anything above 6month cycles then yea.
 
MuscleHeadGuy said:
Would it be possible to do this:

(2) Sustanon 250 injections per week, 500mg split into (2) injections of 250mg on Monday and Thursday.

Using HCG at the end of Week 2 until the last injection during Week 8. IMO not necessary

Using Clomid/Nolvadex/Proviron (Please help us choose one) while on cycle. Neither on cycle, Arimidex instead

Whatever is chosen above for use while on, what should we choose out of the remaining 2 for PCT? clomid PCT with PCS and DTHC like you had plannedB][/B]

The main purpose of the Proviron, obviously, would be to help increase sex drive, keeping one feel positive, feelings of vigor, etc. not fond of the use of proviron, yohimbe will work well

I definitely would like to continue achieving an erection and having intercourse while on cycle.yohimbine and arginine and tribulus

Thanks again, guys!
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The Arimidex is $200. We're on a limited budget for this cycle. We have Nolva on hand and are able to purchase the Clomid. The site selling the Clomid states that taking it every other day while on a Test cycle, you can help to prevent testicular atrophy.

The HCG is rather cheap so I could purchase it and save it for a later time if it's not necessary for this cycle.

I'm assuming Aspire36 and Paravol will do wonders for me in the bedroom while on cycle.

So long as I can prevent (if not completely, but at least for the most part) testicular atrophy, and still maintain my libido and get erections, then I'll survive.
 
MuscleHeadGuy said:
The Arimidex is $200. We're on a limited budget for this cycle. We have Nolva on hand and are able to purchase the Clomid. The site selling the Clomid states that taking it every other day while on a Test cycle, you can help to prevent testicular atrophy.

The HCG is rather cheap so I could purchase it and save it for a later time if it's not necessary for this cycle.

I'm assuming Aspire36 and Paravol will do wonders for me in the bedroom while on cycle.

So long as I can prevent (if not completely, but at least for the most part) testicular atrophy, and still maintain my libido and get erections, then I'll survive.
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$200, try to find it as a research chemical.....while searching it may be easier to find by its compounds name as well....Anastrozole.

~GX
 
Nolva or clomid is not going to help you w/ preventing being shut down while on cycle. B/c blood androgen levels will be so high your body is just not going to produce any test. This is the negative feedback loop and your body will be trying to achieve homeostasis. The only thing that could help prevent testicular atrophy would be hcg but for a short cycle it is not needed. You should not need anything for sexual performance while on cycle. High amounts of Exogenous testosterone makes most very horny. During pct is a different story though. For on cycle maintenance you could use arimidex to control increasing estrogen resulting from aromatization. Nolva could also help w/ this but it is not as effective as arimidex. Also sustanon contains multiple esters which usually includes a long ester like deconate so most won't start pct till about 3 weeks after the cycle. This long ester takes a while to clear your system.
 
id still wait about a week to 10 days before i start pct,

most people will feel when its time to start, just like people with TRT know when its time for their next shot tired, no desire, ect
 
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MuscleHeadGuy said:
I guess what we're asking here is, how long should he wait in between the injections?
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MuscleHeadGuy said:
I definitely would like to continue achieving an erection and having intercourse while on cycle.
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so this is obviously your first run with steroids, not your friends. you're running a log of Intra-Aid, which obviously you've never taken before either. Invalid Link Removed

how do you know which one is doing what if you've never either product? are you planning on logging the intra-aid? would Universal have chosen you to log a new product with your first ever cycle? doubtful.

i hope this isn't taken the wrong way. never mind, i personally don't care. i don't understand why you beat others out on a supplement log opportunity, when you clearly have no clue on which supplement is doing what. i don't understand why you came back after getting banned once (MuscleGuyinNY).

by the way, how did those other products you stole work out for you?
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why do you refuse to run logs, and scam products from companies? what pisses me off the most, is that you have the audacity to scam products not only from companies, but to then ask advice from a community of people who might have actually had an opportunity to run a log and receive a free product. instead, you beat them out of an opportunity, and therefore scammed not only the board supporters, but the people you dare to ask advice from.

i hope you get banned again. people like you make companies leery to give honest people the opportunity to run a log. people like you diminish the honor of this board. people like you need to never breed. subsequently, you've been negged.
 
i was actually intrested in this thread . . .
given that Im starting a new SUS cycle in DEC.

But then SUNCLOUD came off the TOP ROPE with that S#!t !

:jaw:

Muscle head . . . your response . . . ?


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well, since no retort seems to be coming, i'm going to further bury this guy before he pulls a boxmeman and starts deleting posts.

the facts:
1 : the names... MuscleHeadGuy and MuscleGuyInNY... similar name, same capitals. nuff said. but lets continue for $hits and giggles
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2 : both of them live in new york according to their profiles
3 : both of them got products that they're not doing logs for, which is bannable, see exhibit 1A , and your current lack of an Animal Intra-Aid log
4 : both of you want to meet jay cutler, according to your profile
5 : both of you list horror movies under your profile as your favorite
6 : same age
7 : you both have kids
8 : both of you crushed up Animal Multi Vites in a blender with their protein shakes....

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I even tried crushing them up into a fine powder and adding them to my protein shakes, but all I could taste were the vitamins.
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MuscleHeadGuy said:
I even tried crushing the whole package of vitamins and mixing the powder in with a protein shake.
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