Up-coming M-Drol - Help with PCT
- 10-01-2008, 07:21 PM
- 10-01-2008, 07:29 PM
I honestly think that all that is overkill(even for M-drol);specially at those doses for that many weeks.
I would say Nolva,Hypertest,Lean extreme, and maybe 6-oxo.
1)You'll have to search for the Nolva dosage(many varing dosage recommendations)
2)Lean extreme:recommended dosage starting in week 3 of PCT(finish bottle)
3)Definetly continue cycle support throughout PCT
4)If you use 6 -oxo, start it toward the end of PCT to prevent any rebound gyno. I would recommend tapering it down(IMO), but there are numerous dosage recommendations for that as well
- 10-01-2008, 08:00 PM
10-01-2008, 08:00 PM
start 6oxo at the same time you start nolva,
what people dont realize about 6 oxo is that IT DOESNT LOWER ESTROGEN it keeps it the same while raise test, but it does prevent the aromatization of test to estro, so IMO nolva and 6oxo together, and if you want in the second week add 6bromo. (the bromo WILL lower estradiol)
10-01-2008, 08:37 PM
10-01-2008, 09:35 PM
10-01-2008, 09:36 PM
I would run Nolva 20/20/20/20
Weeks 2-5 Post cycle Support 2 caps a.m. and 2 caps p.m.
6 oxo weeks 3-6 taper the dose down each week.
I wish you the best bro.
10-01-2008, 10:06 PM
Thats my point Pem...I don't see much reason in running both 6-bromo and 6-oxo at the same time...right? It almost seems like overkill again...I don't know for sure...just my 2 cents I guess. I could see running the 2 without a serm, but with a serm...i'm not sure. Alls I know is that often times people either run 6-bromo or 6-oxo.
10-02-2008, 12:19 AM
10-02-2008, 12:19 AM
10-02-2008, 12:23 AM
if you look at the baylor study on 6oxo it shows no decrease in estradiol, no change in SHBG and only a change in Testosterone (making the T/E ratio much more favorable)
estradiol sensitized the hypothalmus causing problems with recovery.
6a and 6b-bromo are shown to decrease estradiol by 70-80% which will aid recovery.
they are similar products, but do different things
so to sum it up
6oxo- prevents aromatizing while keeping estradiol the same and SHBG the same.
6-bromo- prevents aromatization while LOWERING estradiol, the effect on SHBG im not to sure of. it will most likely decrease it but only minimally.
i hope this covers what you asked.
10-02-2008, 04:31 PM
10-02-2008, 05:40 PM
10-03-2008, 09:04 PM
one more quick question...do you think i would benefit much running 10/20/30 vs. 10/20/20? Who would do what? Thanks
10-03-2008, 10:42 PM
10-05-2008, 02:45 AM
10-05-2008, 10:29 AM
i think it would be benificial in the beginiing. for the reasons that 6oxo doesnt effect SHBG, raises Testosterone, and keeps estradiol the same, all while preventin gthe aromatization of androgens to estrogens, which will happen naturally as you raise you test levels with a SERM
10-05-2008, 10:50 AM
10-05-2008, 12:41 PM
10-05-2008, 12:46 PM
10-05-2008, 10:59 PM
the serm will act as an antiestrogen at the hypothalmus, it will increase LH and FSH, and bind to specific receptors to prevent gyno.
in no way should it raise Estradiol, it may even lower it to a degree.
adding 6oxo prevents aromatization of androgens into estrogens. it will keep the test estro ratio good.
and there shouldnt be a rebound becuase there wont be as much estrogen in the body (because you block the aromatization )
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