OTC PCT= Man boobs
I ran a 4 week cycle of Epistane(IBE) using all the supports, Had a very good cycle, never felt so good before in my life. Gains were great, energy was great, I was also stacking it with USP labs Powerfull (great Stuff) and USP labs anabolic pump(great stuff). Did some research on epistane and didn't really think it would be that harsh and that an OTC pct would cover me. By the way i was doing 1pill a day for the first 2weeks, followed by 2 pills a day for the last 2 weeks. Going into my pct I felt great.
The Key supps in my PCT were PCS and 6-OXO everything else was just supports that I can list later if needed. I contemplated using a SERM, but I heard alot of talk about PCS being created specifically for Epistane.
Week 1-3 of PCT= Everything was still great, no loss in gains, no gyno, still had a very good mood.
Week 4- Did chest workout, came home from the gym, looked in the mirror and noticed Unilateral swelling, thought maybe i pulled something since this happened so quickly, but then went to sleep, and woke up with terrible pain in nips, and i then immediately knew it was gyno.
Ordered letrozole, it arrived 2 days later and also nolva. Started letro, and about 3 days later the pain was gone, about 80% of the puffyness is still there 2 weeks later. No lump, just soft man boob puffiness. Was really pissed off for a few weeks, blaming PCS, 6 OXO, IBE. Then while laying on the bench doing struggling to get 240 up without breaking my elbows because of all the joint discomfort from the letro, it dawned on me:
1.Normal balance of Test vs Estro: (Just numbers to simply this)
T=100, E=60
2. Add a PH then it looks something like this:
T=170, so body raises E to balance things out so E=130
3. Drop PH and use a Natty test booster
T=120, E=130 (Natural test booster can't compete with the high level my estro was at due to using Epistane.
4. Using a SERM would have probably prevented all this from happening since SERMs have estrogen antagonist activity in breast tissue but shows estrogen-like activity in other tissues. Meaning I could have kept some Estro where needed, but blocked it in my chest where not needed, and no over the counter drug is strong enough to really do this adequately.
So in my attempts to try and stay OTC, I ended up getting to experience the great feelings of depression, joint discomfort, destroyed libido, a man boob, severe mood swings, and probably going to get a chance to hang out with a plastic surgeon and spend about 5grand.
On the brighter side, at least I saved $20 bucks using OTC rather than Serming to begin with.