[OV33]

Has any tried using DIM oka. diindolylmethane during
Their PCT. I guess it comes from Indole-3-Carbinol which your body converts into DIM. Its known to raise Test and has anti-cancer qualitys to stop bad estrogen in the breast of woman. Would this be siimilar to a OTC weaker Nolva or Clomid.


Diindolylmethane has a molecular weight of 246 and is pale yellow in crystalline form. The purified compound does not have any taste.
3,3’-Diindolylmethane

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[OV33]

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[grila jujitsu]

I love DIM. As far as it being your whole pct, I would not suggest that. Although, it could be used as a part of a pct instead of a AI.

[pantherdude63]

Originally Posted by OV33

Has any tried using DIM oka. diindolylmethane during
Their PCT. I guess it comes from Indole-3-Carbinol which your body converts into DIM. Its known to raise Test and has anti-cancer qualitys to stop bad estrogen in the breast of woman. Would this be siimilar to a OTC weaker Nolva or Clomid.


Diindolylmethane has a molecular weight of 246 and is pale yellow in crystalline form. The purified compound does not have any taste.
3,3’-Diindolylmethane

Diindolylmethane (DIM) Information Resource Center - Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a phytochemical found in Brassica vegetables - Diindolylmethane (DIM) is currently under investigation as a natural therapeutic for cancer and infectious diseases - Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a potent modulator of the immune response system - Diindolylmethane (DIM) promotes healthy estrogen metabolism - Diindolylmethane (DIM) is under investigation as a natural drug for Cervical Dysplasia - Diindolylmethane (DIM) immune activation - promotes Interferon-Gamma sensitivity - Diindolylmethane (DIM) is a natural antiviral

You may get more of a response on the pct board.

[OV33]

I'm looking at running a Cel H-Drol / I-Force Bold stack and possibly before that stack I was thinking of running a Cel H-Drol/Epistane stack due to the Bold and testing + . I have restrictions on what I can run right now. So I started looking at what would be the best PCT OTC.

From what I see I want to run:
DIM
Ultimate Nutr.Trib Bulgarian - important for Test
Anb Innovations PCS - Due to 600 mg of REVERSATOL its effects
ZMA - If my Vita Paks don't offer enough-GNC Performance Vitality
6 OXO AI , not sure if DIM would replace it? But may work with it?
Thats when I stumbled on DIM looking at Indole-3-Carbinol to boost Test, The body converts Indole-3-Carbinol into DIM.
Would this be a good OTC PCT

[Nolbandet102]

This Pct would do the job for this cycle its pretty weak. When I say that though I am hoping you have a source and keep nolva on hand when doing any cycle no matter the strength of the compounds you are using. The reason this OTC is sufficient in my opinion is because of the PCS and 6-oxo. I have seen like three DIM threads on here today...IT IS NOT A GOOD ANTI-ESTROGEN FOR PCT, IT IS NOT STRONG ENOUGH. Not saying you can't throw it in, but making it a center piece of any PCT for any compound is stupid.

[OV33]

I should have rephrased my Thread with DIM as part of PCT.
In noway would I go with DIM as the support beam of my PCT. I was looking more at peoples thoughts of it as part of an OTC PCT that perhaps it would give just a fraction more of a safeguard then going with out it. I figure a broad spectrum OTC PCT is safer then just throwing in a AI and a Test booster. I was reading on the Bold
and most people are just running 6 OXO, some TRIB, and perhaps ZMA. I figure running those plus throwing in Reversatol plus DIM and going with Bulgarian TRIB might be safer and allow me to throw H-Drol in the stack.

I was thinking a H-Drol/EPI stack also using this PCT. With H-Drol being low on sides to an extent and EPI with its effects againts Estrogen. Plus EPI class 1 and H-Drol a class 2 make it idea?

Also with a BOLD/H-Drol stack what would I expect if I added EPI as far as Gains/sides?

[stxnas]

Dmangiarelli put this together. It should be a good read for you:

OTC PCT Guide ...


OTC PCT Guide Online (same thing as above, but on a site instead of a forum )


Sorry, I don't have too much feedback about stacking Epi w/Hdrol other than it sounds like it will be hard on your joints and possibly your liver.

[Nolbandet102]

I just finished epi/halo, im in week three of PCT. Im using nolva + post cycle support + powerfull. Im going to finish of with a tappered AI and some kind of free test booster. IMO this cycle could be ran without nolva being used, but not without having it. This is because I think there is a possibility of rebound with EPI when PCT is not done correctly. Its supposed to and IMO does act as an AI so remember when coming off the cycle your estro levels will be really low, so no need for anything that is going to lower circulating estrogen levels right away as this could make rebound even more likely.

[OV33]

Originally Posted by Nolbandet102

I just finished epi/halo, im in week three of PCT. Im using nolva + post cycle support + powerfull. Im going to finish of with a tappered AI and some kind of free test booster. IMO this cycle could be ran without nolva being used, but not without having it. This is because I think there is a possibility of rebound with EPI when PCT is not done correctly. Its supposed to and IMO does act as an AI so remember when coming off the cycle your estro levels will be really low, so no need for anything that is going to lower circulating estrogen levels right away as this could make rebound even more likely.

Great Point, and I agree completely. I'm in the service and looks like I am recieving orders to Italy. I just found out today. So looks like I might have to get rid of my Stock pile of Bold. Not sure on that yet. I grabbed up 8 bt 200 and 6 bt 100. I think once I get to Italy I should have recovered completely from wrist surgery a year ago and be back up to 147lbs. Maybe 150 naturally because I'm hoping my metabolism slowed down. Once I get back to normal, naturally I will be ready to run something from the states or even Italalian stuff. Not to sure on their supplements or laws