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  1. If anyone would have been assassinated of all the candidates, it would have Ron Paul if he took office. MANY people in government and big business would definitely not be very happy if he made it in to office. Big government helps big business tremendously, and when you have a candidate that is really trying to downsize the government and cut advantages to businesses, you get a lot of powerful, pissed off people.


  2. I think we can all agree that taxes is a necessary evil, especially in America. Without taxes, we wouldn't be able to take advantage of the many things we take for granted, such as roads, schools (debatable), etc. And I don't mind paying some taxes as long as it will help people get back on their feet in times of trouble. I think the welfare state is a good thing IF it works the way it's supposed to, which it does for many people. But many people also abuse the **** out of it. Also, you said you don't mind paying taxes if it helps Americans. But the Democrats want higher taxes so it can help the millions of illegals that live here in the U.S.! So how is that going back to Americans?
    Right - I mean I can't see the bookwork - but I'll bet a very large portion of government funds are misappropriated. No one wants to give up their pork barrell spending, so they just tax tax tax, and then give themselves raises to cover the cost.

    The system is defintiely broken in a lot of ways - the question is...will people fix it in time, or at some point will more drastic measures be necessary?

    As long as we have 2 parties monopolizing power in this country, Id put my money on the latter.

    BV
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga View Post
    Right - I mean I can't see the bookwork - but I'll bet a very large portion of government funds are misappropriated. No one wants to give up their pork barrell spending, so they just tax tax tax, and then give themselves raises to cover the cost.
    this is a sad but true statement across party lines

    Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga View Post
    As long as we have 2 parties monopolizing power in this country, Id put my money on the latter.

    BV
    sadly I cannot see a reliable 3rd party. I myself am an Ind. but no one ever gets taken too seriosuly, partly because some people will only vote down party lives

  4. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga View Post
    Right - I mean I can't see the bookwork - but I'll bet a very large portion of government funds are misappropriated. No one wants to give up their pork barrell spending, so they just tax tax tax, and then give themselves raises to cover the cost.

    The system is defintiely broken in a lot of ways - the question is...will people fix it in time, or at some point will more drastic measures be necessary?

    As long as we have 2 parties monopolizing power in this country, Id put my money on the latter.

    BV
    Agreed, and it is a real source of conflict. Having served my country for 5 years, and ending up disabled for it, I hate to think what I envisioned I was protecting/serving is nothing but a beyond-corrupted racket. In the end, I serve the principles, not the administration.
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  5. GO NADER! No but seriously this election is driving me crazy enough that if he gets on the ballot I probably will vote for him just because he's not a corrupt scumbag like the rest of them. Atleast he offers viable solutions to the big issues, health care, energy crisis, war etc. Something needs to be done and I don't think Obama/Clinton/Mcain offer any thing more than usual empty promises.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by dadream View Post
    I don't think Obama/Clinton/Mcain offer any thing more than usual empty promises.
    done and done, none of them are even in the ballpark at this point

  7. Quote Originally Posted by dadream View Post
    GO NADER! No but seriously this election is driving me crazy enough that if he gets on the ballot I probably will vote for him just because he's not a corrupt scumbag like the rest of them. Atleast he offers viable solutions to the big issues, health care, energy crisis, war etc. Something needs to be done and I don't think Obama/Clinton/Mcain offer any thing more than usual empty promises.
    Viable solutions? If high taxes and more government regulation is your definition of a viable solution to our problems, then by all means vote for the guy!

    And I agree, all three candidates suck balls!

  8. they're all as bad as each other, they're just puppets for higher powers,

    they're there not to serve the people but the blood suckers who profit from people.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AM07 View Post
    Viable solutions? If high taxes and more government regulation is your definition of a viable solution to our problems, then by all means vote for the guy!

    And I agree, all three candidates suck balls!
    Yea Im not in favor of higher taxes, but sh!t i'd pay more to keep those other idiots out of office. As for more government regulations, thats not neccessarily a bad thing. You like the airbags in your car? Stricter regulation on industry pollution? sounds ok to me. Again hes not perfect, but if he gets on the ballot hes got my vote.

  10. Should be Ron Paul IMO
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by CopyCat View Post
    Should be Ron Paul IMO
    I agree, but many of his policies would never have passed. The time of less government has passed. The government has gotten too big, and many Americans believe government is the solution to all of the world's problems, when in fact government is typically the cause of many of the problems we face in this world.



  12. couldnt agree more

  13. McCain will win. Simple as that. Just wait and see...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by AM07 View Post
    I agree, but many of his policies would never have passed. The time of less government has passed. The government has gotten too big, and many Americans believe government is the solution to all of the world's problems, when in fact government is typically the cause of many of the problems we face in this world.
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  15. I liken voting to buying tobacco.....

    Sure there are different flavors, colors or exteriors, backgrounds, more or less amounts of processing....

    In the end all you get is crap, your dependance to the system and limited options severly limit finding anything good. Marketing is the winning approach noone buys great smokes theyve never heard of, they buy the whatever they find to be thier flavor or who has the greatest funded marketing campain.

    Mccain being a POW gives me some hope for a mortal man with errors and ommisions, who makes a mistake in judgement or in a speech periodically. But who generally will use his every ability to serve his people to the best of his ability. I fear such a man over time could be weakedn by pressure and influence during a term. I am glad to see mccains 28% (correct?) yearly income contributions go to charities. I think we live in a society that has become so de-sensitised to war death, sex, violence, drugs, dispair and obesity that if a wonderful person came along and ran for office they would be an oddball lost in the fray unable to fill voters expectations of what politicians are. Not to mention campains arent typically easily funded and youd need to have your face every place you can to appeal to the many voters who need to warm up to you before they will choose you regaurless of credetials its been proven. PS dimples and smirks help ala bush, clinton and harper.
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