Who will be the next president ?
- 04-14-2008, 09:58 PM
- 04-14-2008, 10:33 PM
I couldn't care less what drugs Obama used. In fact, him using those drugs opened him up to another subculture, and he probably learned from his experiences, which almost always is a positive thing. I think all drugs should be legalized and let the idiots who can't control themselves OD and die off. But that's for another discussion.
Now Obama places himself above those in PA because they cling to guns and religion. I can imagine in a century from now, if things keep going the way they are moving, complete gun control, banning of handguns in 45 states, limited numbers of bullets one can buy in a set period of time, and 80% taxes. Whose with me?!?! Come on, we all know high taxes is a great thing for this country!!!!
- 04-14-2008, 11:16 PM
How about serious, very illicit recreatuinal drug use. I remeber the big deal made about Bill Clinton and his admitted 'trying but not inhaling' of marijuana. Obama admits in his autobiography to using marijuana and cocaine, and not as a one time thing either. I somehow doubt mainstream America is ready for that. It's not quite as easy to overlook as Arnold's use of steroids, which were not illegal at the time. Politicians and the media aside, not many people care about steroids.
I think it's the whole idea of the the war against drugs, and what they say we can and can't put in our bodies.
This is one of the biggest, most undervalued, indicators of a person's character there is.
For the most part, we are the company we keep
04-15-2008, 09:37 AM
When McCain was a young man he was fighting for his country in Vietnam, being held as a POW, and never giving in to despair while being tortured to betray his country..
When Obama was a young man, he lost heart in the system and turned to drugs...
Who is America going to embrace???
Drug use is the least of my concerns, Obama's stance on guns, taxes, and just about every other policy is what repels me. However, wait and see what hits the front pages.
04-15-2008, 10:02 AM
I'm not thrilled with any canidate choice, but it's not about who you were, it's about who you are....now. Everything does stupid things when they are young.
IMO paying taxes doesn't bother me as long as they are going to be used for americans....in america, for legit reasons, infrastructure, even welfare if a person works full time but still has trouble.
04-15-2008, 12:08 PM
04-15-2008, 12:27 PM
Obama's campaign keeps unraveling unfavorable information about him. By the time election day comes he will have already undone himself.
04-15-2008, 03:08 PM
"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." -Barack Obama
04-15-2008, 03:55 PM
At the time I thought Obama would win when I voted. However, I would probably be up for changing my vote at this point and saying McCain has a better chance at getting voted in.
04-15-2008, 11:41 PM
04-15-2008, 11:43 PM
If anyone would have been assassinated of all the candidates, it would have Ron Paul if he took office. MANY people in government and big business would definitely not be very happy if he made it in to office. Big government helps big business tremendously, and when you have a candidate that is really trying to downsize the government and cut advantages to businesses, you get a lot of powerful, pissed off people.
04-16-2008, 02:58 PM
Right - I mean I can't see the bookwork - but I'll bet a very large portion of government funds are misappropriated. No one wants to give up their pork barrell spending, so they just tax tax tax, and then give themselves raises to cover the cost.I think we can all agree that taxes is a necessary evil, especially in America. Without taxes, we wouldn't be able to take advantage of the many things we take for granted, such as roads, schools (debatable), etc. And I don't mind paying some taxes as long as it will help people get back on their feet in times of trouble. I think the welfare state is a good thing IF it works the way it's supposed to, which it does for many people. But many people also abuse the **** out of it. Also, you said you don't mind paying taxes if it helps Americans. But the Democrats want higher taxes so it can help the millions of illegals that live here in the U.S.! So how is that going back to Americans?
The system is defintiely broken in a lot of ways - the question is...will people fix it in time, or at some point will more drastic measures be necessary?
As long as we have 2 parties monopolizing power in this country, Id put my money on the latter.
04-21-2008, 12:08 PM
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04-21-2008, 12:13 PM
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04-28-2008, 02:48 PM
GO NADER! No but seriously this election is driving me crazy enough that if he gets on the ballot I probably will vote for him just because he's not a corrupt scumbag like the rest of them. Atleast he offers viable solutions to the big issues, health care, energy crisis, war etc. Something needs to be done and I don't think Obama/Clinton/Mcain offer any thing more than usual empty promises.
04-28-2008, 03:01 PM
04-28-2008, 05:11 PM
04-28-2008, 08:05 PM
they're all as bad as each other, they're just puppets for higher powers,
they're there not to serve the people but the blood suckers who profit from people.
04-30-2008, 10:49 AM
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09-06-2008, 06:37 PM
I liken voting to buying tobacco.....
Sure there are different flavors, colors or exteriors, backgrounds, more or less amounts of processing....
In the end all you get is crap, your dependance to the system and limited options severly limit finding anything good. Marketing is the winning approach noone buys great smokes theyve never heard of, they buy the whatever they find to be thier flavor or who has the greatest funded marketing campain.
Mccain being a POW gives me some hope for a mortal man with errors and ommisions, who makes a mistake in judgement or in a speech periodically. But who generally will use his every ability to serve his people to the best of his ability. I fear such a man over time could be weakedn by pressure and influence during a term. I am glad to see mccains 28% (correct?) yearly income contributions go to charities. I think we live in a society that has become so de-sensitised to war death, sex, violence, drugs, dispair and obesity that if a wonderful person came along and ran for office they would be an oddball lost in the fray unable to fill voters expectations of what politicians are. Not to mention campains arent typically easily funded and youd need to have your face every place you can to appeal to the many voters who need to warm up to you before they will choose you regaurless of credetials its been proven. PS dimples and smirks help ala bush, clinton and harper.
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